UW Mitch Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Back in June I ordered two Elite Match pistols from the shop I help out at. I waited and waited. I thought my shop hadn't placed the order. I checked w/ our distributor - they had our order but were majorly backordered. I called EAA, they had lots of orders but were also backordered from the factory in Italy. My impatience brought me here, and eventually to buy the Limited from Rich at Canyon Creek. Finally EAA got some in, my distributor got some of those, and the shop got my order filled! I'm pleased to say that the Elite Match is a heck of a deal. While I really love the Limited, the dollar value that the Match is clearly in a different class. The pistol shot well. Luckily for me, I ordered the fiber optic from Henning months ago, so those will go in this week now that I've broken it in with a few round. I'll probably lighten the recoil spring (first) and hammer spring (later) as well. I think I'm gonna leave the 10mm as is. My only disappointment is that it now comes with adjustable Novak clones as opposed to adjustable Bomar style target sights. All my buddies Match's and my Limited have the target sights, oh well, I guess I'll just have to focus that much harder on the right sight and my shooting fundamentals! ~Mitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary1911A1 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 I don't like the newer Novack style adjustable sight either. It does appear the Supersight could be fittted to my Stock, but I think it's $70 to buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UW Mitch Posted December 3, 2007 Author Share Posted December 3, 2007 Yeah, that's the thing, before you got the target sights included, and now they've changed config. Kinda like how the Limited used to have aluminum grips and now it's got wood. When I ordered my Match they were coming with the Supersight, but now I gotta pay an extra $70, and probable have a little mill work done to bury them just right. Oh well, minor complaint. Review of mags/mag tubes since I've got 9mm, 40S&W, 10mm They're all large frame mag tubes, all seem dimensioninally the same, except the 9mm has closer feedlips (obviously to position the top round in the right place relative to the mag). The 9mm mag tube has some flair on the inside of the tube, which probably decreases capacity somewhat, but also allows the rounds to ride on less surface area. The 40S&W and 10mm tubes seem IDENTICAL just marked differently. In a test, I can fill a 10mm mag with 15 rounds of 10mm or 15 rounds of 40S&W - no surprise. I can fill my H-140 mag with 20 rounds of the 40-long, factory 40, and 10mm - no surprise. I can fill a 40S&W mag with 15 rounds of factory 40S&W but only 11 rounds of 10mm before I feel something binding. Weird thing is I can load up 2 round of 10mm and put 12 rounds 40 on top of it, for a total 14 in the tube (I thought maybe the COL was making it bind near the bottom of the tube). Maybe it's the follower? I'll have to take it apart tonight and measure the followers. I guess I'll have to measure the case diameters of my 10mm and 40S&W although I thought they were the same. ~Mitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Gundry Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Congrats on finally getting them - they do seem to be a helluva value. Could you post up a pic of the new sight? I haven't seen it yet... Thanks, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UW Mitch Posted December 3, 2007 Author Share Posted December 3, 2007 Congrats on finally getting them - they do seem to be a helluva value.Could you post up a pic of the new sight? I haven't seen it yet... Thanks, Dave I'll try to shoot some comparison pictures tonight. ~Mitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIIID Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 In order to put the super sight or a Bo-mar type sight the slide will need to welded up. The dovetail on the new sight is alot wider than the other adjustables. I'm doing an install right now on a 9mm, the rear blade will be at the back of the slide. It will increase the sight radius slightly. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary1911A1 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 In order to put the super sight or a Bo-mar type sight the slide will need to welded up. The dovetail on the new sight is alot wider than the other adjustables. I'm doing an install right now on a 9mm, the rear blade will be at the back of the slide. It will increase the sight radius slightly.Rich Richard, could you give me a ballpark figure on how much it would be to do this to my slide? It's wonderfinished too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UW Mitch Posted December 4, 2007 Author Share Posted December 4, 2007 Here's the pics. The Bo-mar style definitely gives a more defined sight picture - especially contrasted with the fiber optic front sight. The Novak style having less to hang up on will probably be better for plates and IDPA ESP where you gotta shoot to slide lock, and manually (or at least that's how I do it) rack the slide. FUN FUN FUN! ~Mitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIIID Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Gary1911A1, You would be looking at a couple hundred plus the sight. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UW Mitch Posted December 10, 2007 Author Share Posted December 10, 2007 In the 9mm got a ambi safety from Henning, put on the fiber optic front sight I bought from H a while ago, 13# hammer spring, EGW X-long oversize firing pin and 11# recoil spring. Flipped the mag release around (lefty) and had to slightly tune the mags as they wouldn't quite fully catch the release. 100 rounds - 50 mag tech and 50rds American Eagle. Shot great! ~Mitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Wonder Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 My only disappointment is that it now comes with adjustable Novak clones as opposed to adjustable Bomar style target sights. +5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UW Mitch Posted December 10, 2007 Author Share Posted December 10, 2007 (edited) Tech tip on getting the hammer roll pin out on a match: 1. Use the right size pin punch - just slightly smaller than the pin 2. Use a bench block to support the frame on and drive the pin out 3. Use a steel hammer and don't be wimpy - if you are wimpy the pin won't move - my little brass hammer didn't do crap, neither did my nice little plastic/rubber mallot. Went with a regular carpentry hammer for driving nails - a few firm hits did the trick. 4. Don't hit the pin all the way out, just enough to clear the hammer (see Henning's video on his taking out pins) 5. Use the pin punch as a slave pin for aligning the hammer then you go to put it back together Edited December 10, 2007 by UW Mitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ck1 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 (edited) Tech tip on getting the hammer roll pin out on a match:1. Use the right size pin punch - just slightly smaller than the pin 2. Use a bench block to support the frame on and drive the pin out 3. Use a steel hammer and don't be wimpy - if you are wimpy the pin won't move - my little brass hammer didn't do crap, neither did my nice little plastic/rubber mallot. Went with a regular carpentry hammer for driving nails - a few firm hits did the trick. 4. Don't hit the pin all the way out, just enough to clear the hammer (see Henning's video on his taking out pins) 5. Use the pin punch as a slave pin for aligning the hammer then you go to put it back together Well, know this is an old thread but think you just handed me some good info Mitch. I'll be dropping a lighter hammer spring into my Match in a day or two and I'm wondering if I'll be encountering much/anything different in the Match from the operation Henning was kind enough to post on his Limited (read a few things on here that say the hammer pin pin is only in a couple of the models...)? Also, will I have to remove the fireing pin safety if I get one of Hennings x-long firing pins? Thanks. EDIT: found my answers... Thanks anyways! Edited October 26, 2009 by ck1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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