grassy knoll Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 dales para 16-40 locks back with one round left in the mag, slide stop has been replaced and now what else could be causing this? now my gun is doing it with a couple of mags consistently, are there specific dimensions for the mag feed lips, i can adjust the feed lips but i would like to know to what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadetree Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 What kind of followers do you have? I have had the same problem with aredondo followers switched back to stock para followers and the problem went away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDean Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 I cured my P14's exact problem by bending the top most mag spring coil foward a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffro Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 Some years ago I had a similar problem, and was also advised (not by my gunsmith) to start judiciously clipping the mag springs, which I did. It didn't help, and my gunsmith raised hell with me........ before he replaced my mag springs with new UNCLIPPED ones. He then fiddled with the angle of the top coils for about 2 minutes per spring, and WELLA......... perfection. He then told me he was putting me on "probation" as his client/customer/friend, but that I was out if I ever did that again without consulting him! Think long and hard before clipping those springs. Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 I had the same problem with my SVI 4 magazines (I use them in a SVI Competition for Standard Division). Never found out what was causing this strange behaviour, that was reported by a lot of teammates shooting the same guns, BTW. I solved my problem cutting the follower edge that raises the slide stop with a sharp cutter. I think that bending or clipping a spring is not a good idea, because it could alter the way the spring behaves when fully extended (i.e. when the spring force exerted on the follower is at its lowest). Moreover, slimming the follower gave me one extra shot capacity in the magazines. If you are interested, I may post some photos of the modified followers (they are Arredondo red ones): never had a failure to feed or jam, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Boit Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 I did like Skywalker on all my mags followers wether SV, Arredondo or original parts. You can also drill a little bit more the slide stop to prevent any movement but it will remain in the "down" postion and wouldn't lock your slide back. That's what I did on my open gun as I don't use the slide stop . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 Looks like the phrase "slimming the follower gave me one extra shot capacity in the magazines" woke up some noble interest from a round table knight: maybe he will trade his glock for a 1911 style gun. I will obviously be very happy to share the photos of the followers I modified, but you will have to wait until tuesday at least, because I don't have them handy, and this evening I'm leaving for some touring and shooting in that wonderful city named Vienna. While there I'll try to take some good shots to bring back and share with the forum members in the Gallery forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Even Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 Skywalker, how many rounds do you get in your .40 S&W mags? I can get 18 in my mags... even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Boit Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 Hi Even, Are they "regular" or are they 126mm cut to length's box. I can only load 17 in my STI mag with SV follower and Dawson base pad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Even Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 Julien, they are regular 120mm mags with a basepad that is a little deeper than the Dawson. I can stuff 18 in the mag with Dawson pad, but it's a little harder. Of all the 16 rnd stages we shot at the WSXIII I only reloaded once. That was the stage where we had to start with an emtpy and holstered gun. even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Boit Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 I had one mag like this, but I sold it with the pistol it belonged. I'll check your basepads at the Medcup if you don't mind. Who made them ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Even Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 Julien, I could get 19 in the SPS mag I had. Only downside was the quality of the mag I'm planning on making some pads, but I don't know if they will be done before the Med Cup. even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Boit Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 19 ? How do you achieve that ? I know Steinar and Hans had 19 rds in their mags, so I di when I was shooting BULs . Too bad it don't fit the gun. Anybody tried the STI/PARA mags in a STI/SV frame ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynn jones Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 julien & even, i hear if you get Grams Engineering followers, springs and base pads, you can get 20 without any problems. lynn jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Boit Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 Yes but we have to play with the box rule We can't use 140mm mags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 I had that problem with a BULm5 in .45 with 10 round mags. Take the slide off, insert mag with one round of ball ammo. If the round moves the slide stop up , remove the slide stop and file where the ammo rubbed against the inside of the slide stop. This was repeated until the ammo no longer touched the slide stop, but would still lock open when empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Even Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 Lynn, like Julien said, we play by the box rule... Julien, 19 in the SPS, too bad the mags where too soft. I constantly had to adjust the lips. even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Boit Posted March 27, 2003 Share Posted March 27, 2003 Do you have a special spring ? Do you use the SPS plastic base pad ? Which follower ? True they are too soft, I left 3 of them to use for my modified but I'm constantly checking for the lips, and it's boring ! When I think about denis who bought the brazilian 19 rds mags 150$ each !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grassy knoll Posted April 10, 2003 Author Share Posted April 10, 2003 okay we fixed it on the slide stop we made the an indent for the plunger pin so that it would hold the slide stop in the down position even if mag adjustment isn't exact and the follower puts some pressure on the inside of the slide stop, when the mag is empty the slide stop functions as it should and everything else is the same even when taking the gun apart or putting it back together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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