Hog Sniper Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 So I'm about to start reloading for my model 610 3 7/8 barrel... First Question: Is there an advantage to using a 10MM case and down loading it to 40 specs in order to move the bullet closer to the forcing cone? I have an almost unlimited supply of 40 brass to load but I wouldnt mind loading some 10MM brass for matches etc. if its worth it..... Second question: I just bought a boatload of Hornady 180 grain LSWC.. Does anyone have any good load data for a cast lead bullet? Is the barrel too short to make major without taking a beating? Third question: Is Clays a good all around powder to use in 40 as well as 45? I want to keep things simple. Thanks in advance. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheetahs Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 Hi Gary we met a summer Blast With a lead cast bullet start at 4.4 grains WST winchester super target with plated you will need about 5.2 grains WST never loaded clays into a 40 40 brass is very common and easy to get, 10mm take to long to load and unload from the gun. I have always shot mixed brass from the local police range. O.A.L. 1.125 I also load them a little shorter for the 610 Hope this helps Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 I only load 40 S&W brass for use in both my S&W610 and 646. I use very light loads with ca. 3.6-3.9 gr. WST behind 155-180 gr. lead, plated or jacketed bullets. The velociteies are in the 800 fps range and are veryy accurate. So I'm about to start reloading for my model 610 3 7/8 barrel...First Question: Is there an advantage to using a 10MM case and down loading it to 40 specs in order to move the bullet closer to the forcing cone? I have an almost unlimited supply of 40 brass to load but I wouldnt mind loading some 10MM brass for matches etc. if its worth it..... Second question: I just bought a boatload of Hornady 180 grain LSWC.. Does anyone have any good load data for a cast lead bullet? Is the barrel too short to make major without taking a beating? Third question: Is Clays a good all around powder to use in 40 as well as 45? I want to keep things simple. Thanks in advance. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Hello: I have a 646 and load them to 1.180 with a 155 grain bullet. I have a friend with a 610 and he loads to the same length but uses a 170 grain bullet. Hope this helps. Thanks Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haras Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Like cheetahs says, use the 40S&W cases because they are shorter and offer a better reload. Use RN bullets for competition, again for better reloads. Here's some starting points for Clays. Good powder, love it. I use <200gr bullets for ICORE so I don't have much data to make major with them. You'll find the lead bullets speed to be about the same as molys. Yes you might lose a little speed with a 4" barrel compared to my 5". I prefer a 200gr bullet for revolver major (softer recoil, makes people mumble about getting the chrono out to check my loads, he..he..). You should consider using the 185 lead for practice and get some 200gr for competition. Out of a 5" 610 180RN Berry's 2.7gr Clays 689FPS 124PF 1.134OAL 180RN Berry's 3.1gr Clays 785FPS 141PF 1.134OAL 180RN Berry's 4.2gr Clays 951FPS 171PF 1.134OAL 185RNFP Precison (moly) 2.5gr Clays 727FPS 135PF 1.15OAL 185RNFP Precison (moly) 3.0gr Clays 818FPS 151PF 1.15OAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxshooter Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 I would not load to major using Clays the pressure is over maximum. It is a good powder for minor loads in the 40 and great for major in the 45 ACP. Use WST, Titegroup or VV N-320 for major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Sinko Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 I have found that SR7625 is very good for making .40 Major but for some reason it seems not many people use it. Also, 800X produces very low pressure but it doesn't meter worth a damn in my 550. I get dangerously inconsistent charges and I'm not about to weigh them one at a time. Dave Sinko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sargenv Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 (edited) I've actually found that even with my 6.5" barrelled classic, I have better control and speed utilizing minor power factor with my 610 and 140 gr moly coated lead bullets. I tried using the heavier bullets to major and even the light bullets to major and it was taking way too much time to recover so I stuck with the 140 RN's from Bear Creek loaded to about 135 power factor. It's a fairly flat shooting revolver and very quick to re-align the front sights. My current load is 4.0 gr of Ramshot Competition utilzing Federal Small pistol primers, moon clips by RIMZ and Winchester 40 S&W brass loaded to 1.140". Major in the 610 was manageable but I prefer using one load for ICORE/IPSC so I chose to shoot all minor all the time. I get very few D hits if I can help it. Vince Edited March 19, 2007 by sargenv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta Mike Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 I'm using 5.1 grains of WST under a lead round nose bullet for 956 fpm and 172 pf. Works well, recoil is not a factor. (My 12 year old shoots this gun and shoots C class scores) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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