Detlef Posted September 4, 2001 Share Posted September 4, 2001 I finally extricated this thread from *shooting prone*: Yes, thread drift is TERRIBLE! But...US rules for Limited just say the *complete handgun* must have been available to the *general public* (not *general public from dealerships in the USA*), *for one year* and *500 or more made*. I would think the Tanfoglio Grauffel shoots will meet all these criteria, n'est ce pas? Julien? Pat? In fact, the gun creteria for IPSC Standard Division are more stringent than those for USPSA Limited, and I can't think of a single Standard-legal gun that wouldn't be Limited-legal also *except* those that were made in less than 500 pieces, or were not available for at least one year. --Detlef (Edited by Detlef at 4:18 pm on Sep. 4, 2001) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Boit Posted September 4, 2001 Share Posted September 4, 2001 Of course, the tanfos are legal in standard division (and so in limited ). I heard they (tanfoglio) have a contract for 9000 pistols per month for south east Asia ! ! ! I think the "500" rule is not a problem for them ! Eric Grauffel will shoot the french standard national few days before the US nats with one of those pistols. In France, near half of the shooters uses tanfos in standard division, others shoots glocks, SV, Para, SPS, winfield, Bul ... Congratulations for your french detlef . DVC Julien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detlef Posted September 4, 2001 Author Share Posted September 4, 2001 Julien, my home club for several years was EBSA in Battice, Belgium. I can entertain a pretty fast-paced conversation in French, as long as it's limited to IPSC shooting, beer or whine err... wine. --Detlef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detlef Posted September 4, 2001 Author Share Posted September 4, 2001 actually, the CZ 75 ST was a famous case of a Standard-legal gun that was not Limited-legal for almost a year. Ted Bonnet was the victim. --Detlef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted September 4, 2001 Share Posted September 4, 2001 as I said on the other thread...Doesn't Henning shoot Tanfoglio's? Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted September 4, 2001 Share Posted September 4, 2001 DOH! I contributed to thread drift and then I saw this new thread. The rule doesn't restrict Limited guns to those availabile in the U.S. Wanna bet if Eric wins Limited the equipment rule will change? Pat, yes. I've seen him open his can of whoop ass with his Open gun, but I don't know of him shooting Limited at any big US matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detlef Posted September 4, 2001 Author Share Posted September 4, 2001 I am not sure whether he should be called a contestant for the Limited win, but he will do well no doubt. Maybe I can persuade him to give us an interview for Front Sight, I'll give it a try... --Detlef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted September 5, 2001 Share Posted September 5, 2001 I've never seen a "Tanfoglio". Anybody got a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detlef Posted September 5, 2001 Author Share Posted September 5, 2001 www.tanfoglio.it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted September 5, 2001 Share Posted September 5, 2001 Ooh, Detlef, that sounds like a slam! You're not saying he's just another foo-foo gun specialist who can't shoot a real gun are you? Or are you just saying money not bet on Rob, Todd, or Jerry for the Limited win is money lost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detlef Posted September 5, 2001 Author Share Posted September 5, 2001 no more coffee for you today, Erik! --Detlef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Boit Posted September 5, 2001 Share Posted September 5, 2001 I agree with detlef about the limited race. Remind that Todd finished 3rd overall at the Florida open, shooting his limited gun. Eric is a great shooter, but I think he's not as good as with his open gun. We'll wait a couple of weeks and see. This weekend , it's our standard and revolver national, I'll see if he's in great shape and ready to race ! DVC Julien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billf Posted March 29, 2002 Share Posted March 29, 2002 The tanfoglio looks like a EAA Witness. Is the EAA limited version in .40 legal in IDPA. I have one I use to shoot in IPSC years ago. I bought a EAA .45 to shoot (cause it was real cheap) in IDPA a couple of months ago cause the guys here said my limited EAA version was as illegal to shoot in IDPA as my bull barrel STI. Was I mislead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Schwab Posted March 29, 2002 Share Posted March 29, 2002 Billf, I believe your Limited EAA is legal for ESP. Where did you buy it? I have a few friends locally who can't find them anywhere. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billf Posted March 29, 2002 Share Posted March 29, 2002 Bill S Thanks for the reply. Wild West Guns built it for me back in 92/93 (can't remember for sure) just before EAA started selling them in that configuration. I was just at the EAA website a min. ago and saw them still for sale. http://www.eaacorp.com I would really like to know for sure if the limited version is legal as the upcoming IDPA match is a classifier and I like the sights on it better (Bo Mar) than the sights on this EAA .45. This way I can shoot both guns and get classified for CDP and shoot twice as much...... Billf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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