btplus Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 (edited) At what point did S&W start using frame mounted fireing pins in 625 revolvers?? Edited February 25, 2006 by btplus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 At what point did S&W start using frame mounted fireing pins in 625 revolvers?? Somewhere in the middle of the 625-6 series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuz Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 At what point did S&W start using frame mounted fireing pins in 625 revolvers?? I got this info from S&W a while back. You may find it useful, it's from the standard catalog of S&W guns I think: S&W Model 625 History Model (Changes) 625-2 (models prior to 1989) 625-2 (model of 1989, full lug) 625-3 (1990 - longer stop notch in cylinder) 625-4 (45 Colt instead of 45 acp) 625-5 (1991 - 45 Colt) 625-6 (1993 - drilled and tapped under rear sight) 625-6 (1995 & 1996 - switched from square to round butt) 625-6 (1997 - started including locks in boxes) 625-7 (1998, started using machine injection molded parts, and removed firing pin from hammer) 625-8 (2001 - Started putting key Lock on sideplate) -Cuz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Cuz, my 626-6 has MIM parts and a frame-mounted firing pin. Some 626-6s still have the hammer nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerT Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Hi- I've a 625-4 and it's marked "Model of 1989" on the barrel, it's still a .45 ACP and not a .45 Colt, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round_Gun_Shooter Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 At what point did S&W start using frame mounted fireing pins in 625 revolvers?? I got this info from S&W a while back. You may find it useful, it's from the standard catalog of S&W guns I think: S&W Model 625 History Model (Changes) 625-2 (models prior to 1989) 625-2 (model of 1989, full lug) 625-3 (1990 - longer stop notch in cylinder) 625-4 (45 Colt instead of 45 acp) 625-5 (1991 - 45 Colt) 625-6 (1993 - drilled and tapped under rear sight) 625-6 (1995 & 1996 - switched from square to round butt) 625-6 (1997 - started including locks in boxes) 625-7 (1998, started using machine injection molded parts, and removed firing pin from hammer) 625-8 (2001 - Started putting key Lock on sideplate) -Cuz. One thing I have learned in dealing with S&W. The lists like those quoted here are only a guide. They used up any and all parts in the parts bins before a final change was completed. There is a lot of mismatch in the fitting room depending on who worked faster during the piece work era. Nothing is cast in stone. regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuz Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Cuz, my 626-6 has MIM parts and a frame-mounted firing pin. Some 626-6s still have the hammer nose. I guess I should have stated that I was writing all that down while the woman at S&W was reading it out of the book. I thought I got it pretty accurate but maybe I missed a bit here and there. It's more of a "guide" than a "bible" I guess. -Cuz. One thing I have learned in dealing with S&W. The lists like those quoted here are only a guide. They used up any and all parts in the parts bins before a final change was completed. There is a lot of mismatch in the fitting room depending on who worked faster during the piece work era. Nothing is cast in stone. regards, Well that would certainly explain the overlap in the date ranges. -Cuz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underlug Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 (edited) At what point did S&W start using frame mounted fireing pins in 625 revolvers?? I got this info from S&W a while back. You may find it useful, it's from the standard catalog of S&W guns I think: S&W Model 625 History Model (Changes) 625-2 (models prior to 1989) 625-2 (model of 1989, full lug) 625-3 (1990 - longer stop notch in cylinder) 625-4 (45 Colt instead of 45 acp) 625-5 (1991 - 45 Colt) 625-6 (1993 - drilled and tapped under rear sight) 625-6 (1995 & 1996 - switched from square to round butt) 625-6 (1997 - started including locks in boxes) 625-7 (1998, started using machine injection molded parts, and removed firing pin from hammer) 625-8 (2001 - Started putting key Lock on sideplate) -Cuz. To my knowledge, the 625 never had a square butt. My 625-3 is round butt Edited March 1, 2006 by underlug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revchuck Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 To my knowledge, the 625 never had a square butt. My 625-3 is round buttIIRC, the original 625s (Model of 1988) had square butts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underlug Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 To my knowledge, the 625 never had a square butt. My 625-3 is round buttIIRC, the original 625s (Model of 1988) had square butts. We continue to learn. The list of changes is still wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
festus1 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 (edited) In the Std Catalog of S&W 2nd ed. under 625 - quote: "The authors are quite befuddled by varying information surrounding the introduction of this model." They go on to list the mysteries. There were a lot of short run variations. 48 of the 625-5 were made with blue cyls and stainless frames. There are no known 625-1's. Some of the dash 2's were marked "Model of 1988" and some were marked "Model of 1999". There doesn't apear to be any reference to a square butt in any of the variations listed but in the engineering and product changes list states that in 1995 -1996 the square butt configuration was deleted. My 625 V Comp is a dash 6 w/ no internal lock and it has the floating frame mounted firing pin. The floating frame mounted firing pin is listed as being a change beginning with the dash 7's. All very interesting - but I must get off to work. Chris Edited March 1, 2006 by festus1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 I'm fairly confident that none of the 625 series were square butt guns. I bought one of the very first 625-2s on the market back in 1988, and it had was definitely a round butt. RogerT, my own 625-4 Model of 1989 is certainly chambered in .45 ACP, and I would think yours would be too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerT Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 RogerT, my own 625-4 Model of 1989 is certainly chambered in .45 ACP, and I would think yours would be too. Of course it is, I was just being an smartass with that comment, since the list could be read as "all 625-4 are .45 Colt". Cuz, I hope we don't hurt your feelings by slashing the list to pieces, that's not my intent anyway. Instead we should start our own 625-list with the help of our moderators. It could be like the one on Glock-forum, we list serial no, model (generation) and what features it has (or known flaws) and if we know, assembly year (or date of purchase). Could that be of any interest or use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revchuck Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 I'm fairly confident that none of the 625 series were square butt guns. I bought one of the very first 625-2s on the market back in 1988, and it had was definitely a round butt.Mike's probably right - he's been around them longer than I have. When I wrote "IIRC", I should've taken into account my advanced case of CRS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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