Sterling White Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Maybe I should start out that I really hate paying outrageous prices at the pump. It cuts into the spare change for all the needs to shoot a lot. Was watching spike channel the other night and some guys have come up with a great alternative to save some bucks. This thing reminds me of high school chemistry days. http://www.freedomfuelamerica.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlamoShooter Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Well? how does it taste? are you doing it yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajarrel Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 The Chemical Tech I work with has been making and using biodiesel in his Dodge truck for the last 18 months. His cost works out to be about $.75 with him picking up discarded oil at fried food places. He has recently decided to expand and start selling some of his product to others. He will be selling it as off-road bio-diesel for about $1.50/gal. His truck exhaust smells like whatever was cooked in the oil. French-Fries, Shrimp, Chicken. Some days your mouth starts watering FWIW dj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HI5-O Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 What about long term effects on the vehicle's parts and seals? I heard it deteriorates rubber seals faster? barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 The FuelMeister Kit is $2500 so with a $1 savings per gallon it's going to take awhile to recoup the cost of the unit assuming your time is worth nothing. But for many I bet it's more about breaking loose from "the grid" than actual savings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 I HATE MIDDLE EASTERN OIL. (shout mode off) Its gotten us into more trouble since 1979 than its worth. I'd gladly pay a whole lot more for a USA made fuel like BioDiesel. HI-5 wrote: 'What about long term effects on the vehicle's parts and seals?I heard it deteriorates rubber seals faster?barry" On antiques maybe, but modern diesels are made to handle it. What are its problems?: -its cleaner to burn -its cleaner in the engine -its MORE powerful (higher cetane) ANd because production is so small, it actaully costs more in real terms that regular filthy sulfer laden diesel we now burn (going away this year). The patriotic thing to do is switch to USA made BioDiesel. Why would you rather give your $$$ to the middle east & Venezuela's Hugo Chavez instead of a US farmer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 What about long term effects on the vehicle's parts and seals?I heard it deteriorates rubber seals faster? barry I looked at this pretty hard a while back. (The local "Other Paper" has it as a current cover article too, how timely.) The gurus say that the older cars have seals and hoses that will need changed. Newer cars and trucks have better materials, no worries. The bio-d is a fantastic solvent, expect to need to change a few fule filters when switching over, as it will clean out your system. Other than that, it bio-d has better lube properties. Your diesel should run better and longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMITH Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Be aware of cold temps though. It gells at MUCH higher temps than #2 diesel. There is a station in Green Bay WI that sells it at the pump for about $1.40 last summer. Everyone I know that ran it lost a little power, a little fuel economy too. At $1.40 a gallon it was still WAY cheaper than regular diesel. I have not run it in my truck yet, but I might..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 (edited) Be aware of cold temps though. It gells at MUCH higher temps than #2 diesel. There is a station in Green Bay WI that sells it at the pump for about $1.40 last summer. Everyone I know that ran it lost a little power, a little fuel economy too. At $1.40 a gallon it was still WAY cheaper than regular diesel. I have not run it in my truck yet, but I might..... This is a good point. Like petroleum diesel, there need to be additives included in the fuel to address low temps where both kinds of diesel can "gel" - and not run. Keep in mind that the gasoline & diesel you buy today is full of additives for various purposes. In Europe where biodiesel/blend use is common, and in limited use in the US where it has been mandated on a small scale, the gelling problem has been solved at the refinery level. If you make your own from waste oil, you will need additives. Edited February 17, 2006 by Carlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdragon Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Just add a little unleaded in the winter Ivan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HI5-O Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 hmmmmmm....need to rethink using bio-d....cheaper and more power sounds good to me Don't have to worry about cold weather here getting my new 2006 Duramax next week b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdragon Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 HI5-O, Make sure you get an Edge Juice, For that bad boy! Ivan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HI5-O Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 HI5-O,Make sure you get an Edge Juice, For that bad boy! Ivan Ivan, This is my first diesel truck so I went for the one with the most hp and torque, besides I like the red letters. Been looking at all the stuff I could get for a diesel, should have gotten one a long time ago. Hmmmm....Edge Juice.... barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMITH Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Barry, Diesel Dynamics and Edge can take care of all your diesel needs. Then there is Bullydog, Blue Chip, and about a dozen more. The Duramax doesn't need much help, you are going to LOVE it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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