Cltpewpew Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) Looking at picking up an open gun. I’ve landing on starting with 3N37 under a 124 gr bullets. No poppel holes. What is a good starting load? What is everyone’s load if you are running. I’d be looking to to make major pf. Edited June 22 by Cltpewpew Grammar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 9mm or 38 Super (Comp)? Bullet construction matters. Do you have a bullet picked already? COL matters. What gun is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cltpewpew Posted June 23 Author Share Posted June 23 6 hours ago, perttime said: 9mm or 38 Super (Comp)? Bullet construction matters. Do you have a bullet picked already? COL matters. What gun is it? 9mm. Brass monkey bullet 124 rn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 (edited) Coated 125 grain round nose bullets. Hmmm. People seem to have good reasons for not using coated bullets in guns with comps. https://brassmonkeybullets.com/9mm/125-gr-rn/ Edited June 23 by perttime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefVanHauwe Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 Do you shoot USPSA (PF165) or IPSC (PF160)? Barrel length, type of case (brass/nickel), primers and COAL have an important impact. I use Armscor 9mm brass, 7,4 gr of VV 3N37, Limit RN 124 gr FMJ at OAL 29,50 mm and crimp at 9,57mm, which gets me a PF of 164 in my HPS Open Master and 168 in my BA Bullesteros (longer barrel). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cltpewpew Posted June 24 Author Share Posted June 24 1 hour ago, StefVanHauwe said: Do you shoot USPSA (PF165) or IPSC (PF160)? Barrel length, type of case (brass/nickel), primers and COAL have an important impact. I use Armscor 9mm brass, 7,4 gr of VV 3N37, Limit RN 124 gr FMJ at OAL 29,50 mm and crimp at 9,57mm, which gets me a PF of 164 in my HPS Open Master and 168 in my BA Bullesteros (longer barrel). I don’t have coal set. Mixed brass. Servicious y aventura primer. Bul armory sas II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 If it works in HPS Open Master and Bul Bullesteros, it should be pretty close in a SAS 2. Highly recommend FMJ bullets for a comped pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefVanHauwe Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 1 hour ago, perttime said: If it works in HPS Open Master and Bul Bullesteros, it should be pretty close in a SAS 2. Highly recommend FMJ bullets for a comped pistol. I actually also have a SAS 2 Ultimate Racer The same load data gets me a PF of 162. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 7 hours ago, perttime said: Highly recommend FMJ bullets for a comped pistol. Not me. They will lead up the comp pronto. Use only heavy plated or JHPs. Montana Gold does make a FMJ with a copper cap covering the rear. That works, but using JHPs is simpler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharko Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 (edited) I use 7.4gr 3N37 under a 124gr Zero JHP for 9Major out of a DVC-O. Edited June 24 by sharko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cltpewpew Posted June 27 Author Share Posted June 27 On 6/24/2024 at 10:02 AM, StefVanHauwe said: I actually also have a SAS 2 Ultimate Racer The same load data gets me a PF of 162. Thanks. I’m going to start with 7.4 3n37 at 1.16 and test out tomorrow after I pick up the pistol. I want to find the bottom of major pf and then work up spicier loads to see where the gun functions the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cltpewpew Posted June 28 Author Share Posted June 28 On 6/24/2024 at 3:12 AM, StefVanHauwe said: Do you shoot USPSA (PF165) or IPSC (PF160)? Barrel length, type of case (brass/nickel), primers and COAL have an important impact. I use Armscor 9mm brass, 7,4 gr of VV 3N37, Limit RN 124 gr FMJ at OAL 29,50 mm and crimp at 9,57mm, which gets me a PF of 164 in my HPS Open Master and 168 in my BA Bullesteros (longer barrel). What primer do you use? Picked up gun today and shot some test loads. Only few went bang. Primer has impact so I’m guessing light primer strikes. I used servicous y aventuras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefVanHauwe Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 1 hour ago, Cltpewpew said: What primer do you use? Picked up gun today and shot some test loads. Only few went bang. Primer has impact so I’m guessing light primer strikes. I used servicous y aventuras. I use Fiocchi Small Pistol Primers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koya Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 What is your barrel lenght? Also make would help... 3N37 is not so good,if you can get 3N38 its better. 124gr PPU FMJ with 7.6gr with OAL 29.5mm from Bul Bullesteros 5.7" barrel yields PF ~168-170. Fiocchi Small Pistol primer user here also. Check your OAL if you have misfires. Shorter OAL in my guns tend to do that. I hope I helped you somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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