Precision Bullets

[Sc0]

After placing a small order of 12.5k bullets, Dave was telling me that a LOT more bullet weights and configurations will be offered after Christmas... Case deals are still available, I am POSITIVE my USPS lady is going to hate me...

9mm-125gr fp-3500 count $150.5 shipped (same price for .38/.357 125gr fp)

.40 - 185gr RNF - 2500 count $139 shipped

.45 - 230gr RNF 2000 count $118 shipped

[Merlin Orr]

Saw Dave recently at a local match. I have GOT to try some of the 155 and 170 .40 bullets. I have shot a boat of the 185 and find them to be exellent but want to see if a "quicker" recoil pulse helps my miserable shooting. I have shot at least 6K of the 185s in my 6" gun without cleaning the barrel....It looks perfect.

[TBeazlie]

I have been a fan of their 185 tc in 40 cal, but apparently they no longer offer this configuration ( maybe after Xmas?) and now they offer the 185 rnfp instead. Would there need to be any change in powder wt. or oal to get the same pf?

[.40AET]

Would there need to be any change in powder wt. or oal to get the same pf?

I would run them over a chrono to check if you change. The difference in profile could change the seating depth. That would change the internal volume and change the pressure.

[spd522]

I shoot the Precision RN 200s in 45. The new bullets have a different profile. I noticed that velocities were down around 10-15 fps from the old style with the lube grooves. Accuracy is about the same but I found the new 200s shoot about 1 inch high at 15 yards compared to the old 200s. I wish they hadn't changed the bullet configuration as the old ones were great.

I have some 230s and some 200 swc but haven't tried them yet.

[Gun Geek]

I have been a fan of their 185 tc in 40 cal, but apparently they no longer offer this configuration ( maybe after Xmas?) and now they offer the 185 rnfp instead.  Would there need to be any change in powder wt.  or oal to get the same pf?

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You probably have to re-work the load. There are lots of variables like bearing surface area, actual bullet length, tolerances in the new mould (bullet diameter) etc that make it impossible to predict the change.

[8ring]

I just used up my first batch of 45acp 200gr. RNFP in my revolver. I'm happy with their accuracy and cleanliness. Will order 2000 more later this month.

Has anyone tried their 9mm bullets? I'm thinking of trying some plated bullets for my CZ.

Chris

[spd522]

  Has anyone tried their 9mm bullets?

  Chris

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I tried the old 122 gr in 9mm loads. The new bullet is 125 gr. Used with 4.2 (I think) of VV 320. It was accurate and soft shooting. Easily made minor and was pretty clean. However at the prices for the new style Precision shipped, I can get a FMJ 124 Precision Delta for less money. Plus I can use the same bullet in my Major 9 and 38 Super loads. So to me the 9mm black bullet isn't worth it.

Craig

[TBeazlie]

I just ordered 6 cases of the 40 cal 185gr rnf. I hope that will get me through the 2006 season.

Tom Beazlie

[.40AET]

Does anyone have a load for .40 major out of a 5" gun with 185's that they would care to share? (Oal & primers too please) I spoke with a guy ay Precision when I ordered and he recomended 4.1-4.3g of N320. I'm already at 4.4 and it isn't making major. I'm loading at 1.200" with Fed SR primers. My next test will be with 4.6g of N320, I sure hope that it makes it. I'm also testing Ramshot Competition if anyone is interested in the data.

Thanks

[XRe]

I'm in the process of working up a .40 185gr load. Chrono'ing the loads this weekend. Dave recommended 4.1gr N320 to me, and 4.2 of TG. I'm chronoing 3.8-4.4 of both, plus 4.5-5.1 of WST. Loaded 1.180", WSP primers. Will let you know how it shakes out

[.40AET]

185g Precision bullets (.40 caliber) 1.200"oal. Federal SR primers. Mixed brass.

4.6g Vhit N320

Ave= 912fps

Ave Pf= 168

ES= 32

SD =10

4.4g Ramshot Competition

Ave= 911fps

Ave Pf= 168

ES= 41

SD =9

4.5g Ramshot Competition

Ave= 923fps

Ave Pf= 171

ES= 30

SD =8

I've been using N320 with 180g bullets for 4 years and really like them. I wanted to try some powders and bullets that wouldn't cost quite as much. The Precision bullets feel good, slightly more smoke, and shoot similar to the 180's. The Ramshot powder feels just like the N320 with out the cost. The extra .1g really tightened up the numbers. More testing is needed, but I'm real happy with the two new components.

[XRe]

Here's the data from my chrono adventure - note that in a couple of cases, these averages are based on only a couple of samples, as the chrono was not behaving (the stop skyscreen cable was flaky, so we got a lot of errors, and some erroneus readings...). The starting load I used for TG was already 180PF, so I didn't proceed from there.

185gr .40 Precision Bullet (new style, no lube groove)

WSP primers

Mixed, used cases - so this is not a scientific test, by any stretch

1.180 OAL, .421 crimp

5" STI Trojan

3.8 N320 = 863.2 avg, 159.7 PF - ES 33.7

4.0 N320 = 896.0 avg, 165.8 PF - ES 10.8

4.2 N320 = 917.3 avg, 168.7 PF - ES 27.8

4.4 N320 = 943.2 avg, 174.5 PF - ES 18.1

3.8 TG = 916 avg, 169.5 PF - ES 3 (only 3 rounds worked, though)

4.5 WST = 867.8 avg, 160.5 PF - ES 102

4.7 WST = 895.0 avg, 165.8 PF - ES 39.9

4.9 WST = 914.0 avg, 169.7 PF - ES 43

5.1 WST = 921.7 avg, 170.5 PF - ES 41

Subjective notes - the TG load was snappier than the other two at the same PF. WST and N320 felt roughly the same - WST perhaps feeling slightly more "marshmallowy". WST displayed some really wide variances in velocity - the 4.5 load had an extreme spread of 102 fps!! WST is far dirtier in my gun than N320, leaving corn meal in places, and more soot.

I was told that the PB loads were a little smokier than the jacketed stuff I shot, but I didn't notice it while shooting.

N320 is a little bit more friendly for reloading, in that the 4.2gr charge is a lot easier to see in the case than 3.8 of TG. WST seemed OK. I will probably load up some more 3.8 TG loads and 4.2 N320 loads and compare them in practice to see which I prefer. I'm leaning towards the N320 loads, now (I tend to prefer soft over snappy).

Edited September 19, 2005 by XRe

[Nemo]

XRe and .40AET,

Thanx for the data. Looking forward to see more numbers with TiteGroup.

[G+16]

tested sample of precision in 230gr rn, loaded hodgdon clays,federal cases,win.primer, Springfield armory 5 in. 10 shot cycles with chrony beta,

sunny day 78-80 degress.

3.7 clays, pf-163.1

3.8 clays, pf-174.7

3.9 clays, pf-178.6

4.0 clays, pf 186.2

all loaded to a OAL of 123.3

crimp of 0.475

should be noted that the 230 wts average 228.5, and height is .636 verses a .644 on my jacket that i usually use.

with 12 lbs. spring and wilson buffer, shoots very well not all that snappy (3.8) will be my choise. no more smoke than usual, pistol cleaned as usual, little bit lighter than usual on barrel hood.

will try some at a local match this sunday before ordering, but so far I'm sold, good price on good product

thanks

[buddy_fuentes]

I just used up my first batch of 45acp  200gr. RNFP in my revolver.  I'm happy with their accuracy and cleanliness.  Will order 2000 more later this month.

  Has anyone tried their 9mm bullets?  I'm thinking of trying some plated bullets for my CZ.

  Chris

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Chris, I have been using Precision's bullets for several years in .45 225 moly FP and they are great. I am also using the new 230's.

I just bought the 124 gr. bullets and have been shooting them in my 9mm's and my 9x23. I find them very accurate and cheaper than jacketed bullets.

Buddy