twister Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I'm reloading 38 special wad cutters on my Dillon 550. I can't get any bell out of the 2nd. stage. I've tried adjusting the die closer to shell plate, and it hits the plate, still no bell. Please help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrackCage Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Do you have the correct powder funnel in the die? If not, could be your problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twister Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 I'm pretty sure I do. How could I check it? Thanks for the quick reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrackCage Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Pull the powder funnel out, there is a letter engraved near the top. But before you do... Do you load multiple calibers? Is there a chance you would have the wrong one installed? We're you loading this caliber before and was it working fine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twister Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 I load 38, 9mm, and 45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrackCage Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 So is there a chance you forgot to put the correct one back in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrackCage Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 See here. Your funnel for 38 spl should have the letter D on it http://brianenos.com/pages/dillon/cal.conv.chart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twister Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 The powder funnel has a 0 on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrackCage Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I don't have my 38 dies handy to check but if you're sure it's not a D, that's you4 problem according to the chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twister Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 I just checked again with my glasses on, its a D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1tcgc Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 There should be a “Delrin Collar sleeve”, that slides into the powder measure. It sits just above the powder funnel. If it fell out, If it fell out the powder funnel move up too far and will not expand the case. The Dillon part # is 13845.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twister Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 Thanks, I'll check for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twister Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 I was just able to check on Deleon sleeve, it’s there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhgtyre Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Does the powder bar travel fully? It should be pretty much flush with the opening in the powder measure when it is at full travel. If it doesn't then you either need to screw the die down further or the powder measure is broken (given that you have the correct powder die in). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twister Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 I have screwed the die down all the way to the shell plate, and I’m still not getting enough bell on the mouth of the case. I’ve checked everything on the powder measure I can, nothing is broke, and the white delrin bushing is in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miranda Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) I am guessing here you have the correct cases? If you have the die run all the way down, and not getting belling it is easy to state some thing is wrong. the powder funnel has to stop on something. I can't recall what holds the powder measure to the die... brain freeze... is the measure sliding up? miranda edit add: found pictures and now recall.... Edited January 19, 2018 by Miranda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twister Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 I’m getting a full stroke on the powder bar, the die is screwed all the way down, still no belling of the case mouth. Everything works fine when I load 9mm and 45, just having problems with the 38’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miranda Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 well, that leaves us at checking parts for proper dimensions... the funnel diameter should be about .358 If my memory serves, just before the bell ramp starts. (the 9mm funnel should be a wee bit smaller) that will tell you you have the correct funnel, I have no idea for how tall the delrin insert needs to be. does it have a crack in it? have any long 38 cases? (like a 38 super or such) a way to try to see how far away the bell is... miranda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miranda Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) I have to state I was thinking the problem cases are the 38 short things I have seen. ah what the heck, I kinda like this sort of puzzle and thinking through what can go wrong with a mechanical device. since you are getting the powder bar to full movement that usually means the case is close to the bell ramp. so you need maybe another full turn on the powder die. and I am assuming you are hitting the shell plate... you wouldn't happen to have a washer or two the same size as the top of the powder funnel? miranda Edited January 19, 2018 by Miranda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twister Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 Miranda, I don't have a washer that size, but its something I was going to try tomorrow. Thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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