TriggerFreeze Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 The 9L is approved for Production. Ported guns (with a non-ported barrel) are approved for Production. The 10098 is a 9L with a ported slide, but is also cut for a dot. Since the model designation isn't changed, would it be Production legal? https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/performance-center-ported-mp-9-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMike Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Yes. https://www.uspsa.org/uspsa-NROI-production-gunlist.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboos Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Provided that the barrel is not ported Quote All ported models of approved guns are approved for use in Production and Carry Optics, as long as the barrel is not ported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DementedAntics Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 What's the deal on limiting factory ported guns in production? Is the advantage of a factory ported barrel that significant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 (edited) If they were allowed Tanfoglio and CZ would have come out with gamer guns featuring insane tricked-out version of factory porting. It would be pretty much required to finish well, and then you have an equipment race like all the other divisions. Edited July 2, 2017 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 On 6/29/2017 at 9:57 PM, DementedAntics said: What's the deal on limiting factory ported guns in production? Is the advantage of a factory ported barrel that significant? It doesn't matter how significant the advantage is, if they allowed ported barrels, it would make all non ported barreled guns less competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DementedAntics Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I guess the rules make no sense to me at times. I mean look at the sig p320 X5. Basically a crazy built gun from the factory with the intent to only be used as a competition gun and it's legal in production. Yet it's got a milled slide for less weight and a flat faced trigger. Seems like son it won't matter and other production guns will be phased out and it will become an inevitable equipment race. A gun like that is hard to compete against when it's sole purpose is to be a comp gun and most other production class guns are duty/carry guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) Its been that way for years. This is what I ditched the M&P for - a shot of my Stock 3. Tanfoglio and CZ have been producing guns which are legally within the rules of Production yet completely miss the intent. The shadow 2 is custom built ready to rock in Production even moreso - at least I had to tune the sights and trigger parts in the Tanfo. As soon as you define the rules for a competition, someone is going to build a car or gun or whatever that barely barely fits within them. (sidenote: After many months of matches with both, I'm convinced there's no actual advantage. Plastic transitions draws and loads faster. Stable heavy metal guns mow down plate racks and closely spaced distant targets faster.) Edited July 3, 2017 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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