JOThompson Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 I recently shot a USPSA stage that involved running to a table, retrieving gun, and then running to another location to obtain magazines. I was running at such a fast pace that when I picked up my Glock from my table, my forward momentum caused me to whip the gun almost behind me. Didn't break the 180 but close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 I've "almost" broken the 180 a number of times - been fortunate each time that I wasn't called on it. But, one day ... ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTRDRGN Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 At least you were aware of it.. seems to me a lot of people aren't aware when they get close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee blackman Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Realizing that you've lost muzzle control means you still have muzzle control. Most of the 180 breaks I see are shooters reloading when facing their weak side direction, and they literally have no idea. Its that loss of muzzle awareness because they are going thru the physical motions without conscious thought and awareness. Its important to practice reloading while moving weak side direction, and also doing up range runs while keeping the gun down range. I have intentionally taken near right at 180 degree shots before.... there is nothing wrong with it. But I was completely aware of what I was doing the whole time, and usually point out to the RO what my intentions are before hand, so he is aware of the exact point at which I'd actually break the 180 as opposed to where I'm taking the shot from. There is no "almost" breaking the 180... You either do or you don't. Also as an RO, I've been on the muzzle end of a 180 break before and there is nothing cool about it. Here is the rule as the book states: "10.5.2 If at any time during the course of fire, a competitor allows the muzzle of his handgun to point rearwards, that is further than 90 degrees from the median intercept of the backstop, or in the case of no backstop, allows the muzzle to point up range, whether the handgun is loaded or not (limited exceptions: 10.5.6). " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 My first (and only) Nat'ls - first COF - a M on my squad was DQ'd for breaking the vertical 180 - backing up and reloading, he pointed the pistol further back than the 90 degrees up - Scared the crap out of this new B shooter (at that time) and I went at least 10% slower for the next 5-6 COF's because of it - I didn't want to fly to Las Vegas and spend a week with my wife, and be DQ'd ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamicalflinch Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 My first (and only) Nat'ls - first COF - a M on my squad was DQ'd for breaking the vertical 180 - backing up and reloading, he pointed the pistol further back than the 90 degrees up - Scared the crap out of this new B shooter (at that time) and I went at least 10% slower for the next 5-6 COF's because of it - I didn't want to fly to Las Vegas and spend a week with my wife, and be DQ'd ... It's funny how watching someone get DQ'd makes you so cautious about making the same error, even if that error wouldn't even be a problem with how you normally do things. I know it's made me overly cautious and pensive, especially when the match is far away from home and there is more on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge40 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Close only counts with horseshoes and hand grenades. As long as you are aware of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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