FlightMurse Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 After nearly 10,000 reloads (6k on single stage) I experienced my first squib today. Although I watch the third station very carefully to visually inspect the case for powder one was able to sneak by. Luckily I was doing slow fire drills and the squib case didn't eject. This now has me in the market for a powder check die for a little extra insurance. I have looked through the forum and am leaning towards the Dillon die or the RCBS lock out die. Thank you for your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDA Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 And what press are you using to load? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC702 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 DIllon forum, and third station reference have me assuming we are dealing with an XL650. The Dillon powder sensor works well. I used mine for probably 10k .45 loads before not bothering with it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynnm45 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 RCBS lock out die. Totally shuts you down if charge is amiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlightMurse Posted July 26, 2015 Author Share Posted July 26, 2015 Sorry, I forgot to include the press details. Dillon 650, 9mm, lee dies, bayou 135 with titegroup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDA Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 The Dillon Powder Check works very well for me (9mm, .223 and 300BLK). You can adjust it to suit your needs and you can set it up to detect a fairly small range of deviation in your powder. The Dillon Powder Check along with visual inspection/monitoring is good insurance to avoiding a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 RCBS lock out die. Totally shuts you down if charge is amiss. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wayne Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 My Dillon has detected a slight amount of mud in the case that was not removed by tumbling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlightMurse Posted July 26, 2015 Author Share Posted July 26, 2015 How many of you using a 650 have had a squib before? I had read that progressive presses are more inclined to do this, but I thought that visually inspecting the cartridge would be sufficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC702 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 I've never had one, with tens of thousands of many different handgun and rifle cartridges. I don't see how it's possible unless the powder measure breaks; something you'd notice, and would affect all future charges, not just one in the middle. Am I just lucky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwxmas Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 (edited) Hotnady lockout is more sensitive than RCBS, I have both, and prefer the Hornady. And it does not have that damn piece of plastic.on the end. Edited July 26, 2015 by bwxmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 (edited) Never mind. Found it. Edited July 27, 2015 by Religious Shooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michmalo Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 I also have the 650 and run a power check on all of my tool heads... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlightMurse Posted July 27, 2015 Author Share Posted July 27, 2015 How exactly do you clear the press once it is "locked out"? and start loading again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Just pull out the offending case and continue on as normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDA Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 I've never had one, with tens of thousands of many different handgun and rifle cartridges. I don't see how it's possible unless the powder measure breaks; something you'd notice, and would affect all future charges, not just one in the middle. Am I just lucky? There are lots of ways to mis-load a cartridge, powder could run low or run out, powder could bridge, your child/wife/girlfriend/boyfriend could interrupt you and you don't finish the stroke correctly, the measure/powder bar jams and doesn't travel correctly, there is a piece of mud/spider web/nest in the cartridge, etc. I haven't loaded one...yet, in my thousands of rounds. I try to do everything to avoid it. That being said, I recently had 60 rounds of Sig Sauer 300BLK subsonic "match" ammo and the second cartridge I fired was a squib. I removed the bullet and took the remaining 58 cartridge home to inspect. Three of them had no powder in them. Yes, you read that correctly, out of 60 factory Sig rounds, four didn't have powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbobaker Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 On 7/26/2015 at 8:19 AM, FlightMurse said: How many of you using a 650 have had a squib before? I had read that progressive presses are more inclined to do this, but I thought that visually inspecting the cartridge would be sufficient. I had my fist last week and am looking for a good powder check now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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