Batman Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Was wondering if anyone knows what magazines the new Bul-M5's that Charles Daly will be importing will use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MstngLX50 Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 At last years shot show they told me they were STI mags. I'm assuming they were STI mags for STI pistols but I could be wrong. maybe someone else knows for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 BUL m5 will accept para, STI and DV mags. MIne willl run Para and SVI mags without problems. The STI mags were sticking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybrosh Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Most Bul guns will accept SV style mags, that includes STI/SPS, Para, etc'. Bul Transmark, is the distriubtor for STI in Israel - They manufactor parts alone, but are also buying parts from STI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Of course, now that we don't have that pesky ban, Bul M5 mags should work nicely and actually be available, as should those made for Kimber wide body guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybrosh Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Hi Rhino, The Kimber polymer wide grips were made by Bul for Kimber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 They used to, not anymore. Don't know wno makes it for them now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 I have been holding my breath now for amost 2 years waiting on CD to bring in these guns. Guess it's about time to dial 911. Dealer cost on the .40 Government Model is only $570. Guess that's why I keep waiting. Let's see that is over $1,000 less than the STI/SVI guns. What is wrong with this picture. Can we say overpriced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmills Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 I have been holding my breath now for amost 2 years waiting on CD to bring in these guns. Guess it's about time to dial 911. Dealer cost on the .40 Government Model is only $570. Guess that's why I keep waiting. Let's see that is over $1,000 less than the STI/SVI guns. What is wrong with this picture. Can we say overpriced? Joe D: Will these be available only thru Charles Daly? If so, will the slides have "Charles Daly" engraved into them? Thanks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Hi Rhino,The Kimber polymer wide grips were made by Bul for Kimber As Cousin BulM540 mentioned, the current Kimber frames are not Bul Transmark products. Although, it is my understanding that they use the same magazines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Anyone know if Mec-Gar will be making replacement "normal cap" .40 mags for the Bul 1911 and the Para? How about for the SPS and S_I? Anyone care to post a range report on the Bul .40 once they begin shipping? Thanks, D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Larry Cazes Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 I have been holding my breath now for amost 2 years waiting on CD to bring in these guns. Guess it's about time to dial 911. Dealer cost on the .40 Government Model is only $570. Guess that's why I keep waiting. Let's see that is over $1,000 less than the STI/SVI guns. What is wrong with this picture. Can we say overpriced? Come on now.....This is isnt really an accurate comparison. Might as well compare a box stock P16-40 to an edge. There is very little similiarity in build and part quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Anyone know if Mec-Gar will be making replacement "normal cap" .40 mags for the Bul 1911 and the Para? How about for the SPS and S_I? Anyone care to post a range report on the Bul .40 once they begin shipping? Thanks, D. I don't know about Bul, but they're already doing them for Para. The .45 mags hold 13 and are just a little shorter than factory Para mags. Hmmm ... I wonder if Entreprise will start making their guns again, now that magazines aren't a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 "Hmmm ... I wonder if Entreprise will start making their guns again, now that magazines aren't a problem. " I hope so, Rhino. I saw one once in Area 8 that was for sale & it appeared to be of excellent quality. I am all in favor of new technology (thought the Enterprise did appear to be quite similar to Para but made from US steel) and more options in Limited. For general USPSA shooter use one year from now, maybe we will see: -Enterprise .40 Limited -Bul .40 Limited -Caspian .40 Limited -Springfield Armory .40 Limited like TGO shoots - if they would only make it into a general production item rather than custom shop only and a few dark horses: -CZ "TS" Limited 40 (similar to Standar IPSC) -Sig X-5 -Tanfoglio Limited .40 I love my SV, but innovation will only benefit the shooter & I would like to have more choices than just S_I. Yes, I did see Sevigny's finish at the FL open. I will not be selling my SV for a glock however. Thanks for the heads up on the Mec Gars. Regards, C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted February 24, 2005 Author Share Posted February 24, 2005 I have also been waiting for the CD to import the Bul in 40. I was just trying to get a head start on the gear. I already have a Bul in 45. purchased a few years ago and for the money no gun can compare. How the saying goes SWeeeeeeeeT. I am using Kimber mags at this time. but Kimber does have 40's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Larry, please educate me as to why a STI/SVI is worth a $1,000 more than a BUL M5. Actually $1,200 more. Let's see, both have plastic frames, forged slides, ramped bull barrel, high rise BTs and the list goes on. A STI at $1,000 would be a reasonable price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 R & D , tooling, Gotta pay those good people to keep them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 by the way Bul m5 steel inserrts are casted , STI are / SVI are forged. Not the the cast are bad , my BUL m5 has a lot of rounds some play with the slide to frame fit but OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Larry Cazes Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Now don't get me wrong, I never said I didnt like the BUL design or think that it is not suitable for heavy competition use but that was definitely NOT an apples to apples comparison that was made. Um..Let see. How about obvious differences in fit, finish, performance, and quality of materials to name just a few. A full custom gun vs. assembly line production......There really is NO comparison and due to the extra work and handling that goes into the STI/SV the prices will never be the same. By the way, both STI and SV frames are steel. The grip is polymer but thats it. Quite honestly, My main complaint about polymer framed guns is that they are not balanced well by design. In my experience, there is just too much unmatched weight above the centerline of your wrist/hand which creates a lot of torque and muzzle rise. Aside from the STI/SV modular frame, I actually prefer the para or caspian to the BUL or wilson polymer double stack frames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 I have handled and shot several STI guns. I honestly did not see anything special about the fit and finish. The barrel and slide to frame fit was no better than my Kimbers. The finish was certainly no better. I have not handled one of the new BUL M5s so I really cannot comment on how well they are put together. I have shot a couple of the old models made for Kimber. The fit and finish on those were just as good as the STIs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybrosh Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Ok -I'm about to throw some dirt in Bul's way....and it will malfunction. Even though I consider myself to be somewhat of a patriot, I don't see how you can compare Bul to STI/SV/SPS. The finish, as mentioned earlier, quality of materials, and more important - performance. I'm going to tell you a little, "secret", and probably someone will avenge me for doing so - The Bul pistols, you guys use around the globe, are in most cases, top notch. And the simple reason is, Bul, knows it has to export quality products in mint condition outside the borders of our country - It's a different story, however, when it comes to local production, and many fellow shooters of mine will testify. There is no quality assurance. Period. Something you, in the States or Europe would never accept from handgun manufacturing companies - but we have to, because most of us have nothing else to use, and must come to terms with the grim situation. I'll stop here, because I don't believe in damaging one's reputation - and I'll conclude with this : Bul makes decent guns, and if a gun works, it works, but Bul is no STI/SVI/SPS, just like Sellier and Bellot is no Lapua. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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