223 brass processing steps

[ltdmstr]

moved to different thread.

Edited December 5, 2013 by ltdmstr

[Chills1994]

I haven't heard of any other options for de-crimping on a 650.

[GuildSF4]

I knew it sounded too good to be true. Does anyone know of another way to swage .223 and 9mm on the 650 press? The Super Sawager 600 is nice, but I prefer to skip a step and do it on the tool head.

If I figure out a way to do it I will let you know.

[Round_Gun_Shooter]

and the swagger bar for the 550...

Just curious.. what is that?

G.S. Custom swager. You remove the primer system and bar and install this guy which goes up through the shell plate. You use it like you would do seating a primer except it removes the crimp. Just one less thing I have to do off the press since I don't have a 1050.

The G.S. Custom swager only works on on a Dillon XL650, no a 550.

He sells one for a 550. I just bought it, haven't received it yet. It's on eBay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/G-S-Custom-primer-pocket-swager-uniformer-for-Dillon-RL550-223-308-9mm-45-/221324379696

[Chills1994]

Can a casefeeder for a Dillon 550 actually handle .223 or other rifle brass?

[GuildSF4]

Can a casefeeder for a Dillon 550 actually handle .223 or other rifle brass?

No, it is for pistol calibers only, a note on Dillon's site states rifle cases are too tall to feed with this system.

[Chills1994]

I could swear some guy started a thread a few years back saying how he converted his 550 casefeeder over to feed .223.

IIRC, he came right out and said "I called Dillon up and said this part and that part were broken. They sent me new ones for free and then I butchered them up to make it work for .223. Ha ha he he!". He promptly got jumped by other pisters here for abusing Dillon's no BS warranty.

He might have also scavenged parts off a Lee press two, but at this point my memory is so fuzzy I may be combing my memories of two or three threads together.

[Flatland Shooter]

Using the swage gizmo in lieu of the priming seater is interesting. Think about it, and I wonder if Dillon will warranty it. Dillion's is designed to press up a primer in the pocket and the swage gizmo is opening up the pocket for the primer. I could be wrong, but I think the upward pressure of a primer is less than the swage button. The primer is press fit with a ram that is about the same diameter as the primer itself, so the pressure is spread out evenly. With swage, I don't know. The swage gizmo sounds like a time saver, but does Dillon think the shell plate is taking on too much upward pressure? Dillon where are you on this gizmo?

Dog

I'd like to hear what Dillon thinks but knowing how sharp they are, I believe that if it was something that would work (without damaging the press) they would already offer it.

JMHO.

Bill

Dillon in another thread said they would not warranty if this is used. (Cannot locate the thread now although this thread aludes to it - http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=184900&hl=+650 +swager&page=1 (post #9)

I took another look at the ad for this swager on eBay.

If I read it correctly, the manufacturer says that they have never seen a Dillon press (specifically the shell plate) damaged through the use of their tool. They also indicate that their warranty includes not only their product, but repairs to a Dillon press as a result of properly using their tool.

To me it seems that swaging with their tool exerts a lot of pressure on the case rim and the shell plate, but if no one has reported problems and there is a warranty in place to repair damages, I may change my mind about this tool and give it a try.

Bill

[Nimitz]

There is a rather long thread in the Dillon reloading equipment sub forum about this exact item, including a very detailed test of it ...

[anm2_man]

Using the swage gizmo in lieu of the priming seater is interesting. Think about it, and I wonder if Dillon will warranty it. Dillion's is designed to press up a primer in the pocket and the swage gizmo is opening up the pocket for the primer. I could be wrong, but I think the upward pressure of a primer is less than the swage button. The primer is press fit with a ram that is about the same diameter as the primer itself, so the pressure is spread out evenly. With swage, I don't know. The swage gizmo sounds like a time saver, but does Dillon think the shell plate is taking on too much upward pressure? Dillon where are you on this gizmo?

Dog

I'd like to hear what Dillon thinks but knowing how sharp they are, I believe that if it was something that would work (without damaging the press) they would already offer it.

JMHO.

Bill

Dillon in another thread said they would not warranty if this is used. (Cannot locate the thread now although this thread aludes to it - http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=184900&hl=+650 +swager&page=1 (post #9)

I took another look at the ad for this swager on eBay.

If I read it correctly, the manufacturer says that they have never seen a Dillon press (specifically the shell plate) damaged through the use of their tool. They also indicate that their warranty includes not only their product, but repairs to a Dillon press as a result of properly using their tool.

To me it seems that swaging with their tool exerts a lot of pressure on the case rim and the shell plate, but if no one has reported problems and there is a warranty in place to repair damages, I may change my mind about this tool and give it a try.

Bill

Bill Give it a shot - it does indeed work as advertised.

[Chills1994]

I could swear some guy started a thread a few years back saying how he converted his 550 casefeeder over to feed .223.

IIRC, he came right out and said "I called Dillon up and said this part and that part were broken. They sent me new ones for free and then I butchered them up to make it work for .223. Ha ha he he!". He promptly got jumped by other pisters here for abusing Dillon's no BS warranty.

He might have also scavenged parts off a Lee press two, but at this point my memory is so fuzzy I may be combing my memories of two or three threads together.

Not the exact thread I was talking, but this should do it if you want to feed rifle cases from the 550 casefeeder:

http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=157578&hl=+32%20+h&r

I used ".32 H&R" for the keyword search ... For future reference,

That would be pretty slick if yould outfit a 550 with the RT1200, a decrimping bar, and a rifle case feeding case feeder.