Quick Draw McGraw Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Zero Bullet Company has a new style 9mm 125 grain JHP-C. Item #136. It is a new hollow point with a conical head. I had been loading their 125gn JHP with 4.9 grains WIN231 with an OAL of 1.115 When I emailed them to get load data using HP-38/WIN 231 they told me they were loading them exactly as the older 125 gn JHP (jacketed hollow point)using 5.0gn HP-38/WIN 231. They later emailed me back stating the bullet was similiar to the Hornady HAP bullet and I could utilize similar load data. Anyone loaded any of these yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcs Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Zero Bullet Company has a new style 9mm 125 grain JHP-C. Item #136. It is a new hollow point with a conical head. I had been loading their 125gn JHP with 4.9 grains WIN231 with an OAL of 1.115 When I emailed them to get load data using HP-38/WIN 231 they told me they were loading them exactly as the older 125 gn JHP (jacketed hollow point)using 5.0gn HP-38/WIN 231. They later emailed me back stating the bullet was similiar to the Hornady HAP bullet and I could utilize similar load data. Anyone loaded any of these yet? Used same load data for both bullets--Just adjusted OAL as they are a little different in design at the top of the bullet. POI was the same with my C-more (well close enough) not to have to change C-more adjustment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quick Draw McGraw Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 Ics did you go longer or shorter with the new style JHP-C. What was your OAL?? When you say you used same load data for both bullets did you mean for both of the ZERO bullets (the JHP & JHP-C) of for the new ZERO & the Hornady HAP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I load their 115 jhp and 115jhp-c exactly the same. Slightly different impact (at 50 yards and a red dot), but much better group. 25 yds and closer impact difference is negligble. I would load a few the same as your old load and then just test for function/chrono. Shouldn't be to much difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quick Draw McGraw Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 Thanks guys. Interesting that you noted they seem to have better grouping at distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PINMAN44 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Hey Quick Draw: I use a 125 new style ZERO for both open and stock steel rounds. I use Clays for the 125 for my stock guns. I haven't changed my load in forever just bullet profile so if you're interested I'll take a look at my books and see what's up. Robby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcs Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Ics did you go longer or shorter with the new style JHP-C. What was your OAL?? When you say you used same load data for both bullets did you mean for both of the ZERO bullets (the JHP & JHP-C) of for the new ZERO & the Hornady HAP? Sorry for not being clear. Same load for the Zero 125 JHP and 125 JHP-C. 38SC. Same OAL 1.234. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reptoid Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Zero Bullet Company has a new style 9mm 125 grain JHP-C. Item #136. It is a new hollow point with a conical head. I had been loading their 125gn JHP with 4.9 grains WIN231 with an OAL of 1.115 When I emailed them to get load data using HP-38/WIN 231 they told me they were loading them exactly as the older 125 gn JHP (jacketed hollow point)using 5.0gn HP-38/WIN 231. They later emailed me back stating the bullet was similiar to the Hornady HAP bullet and I could utilize similar load data. Anyone loaded any of these yet? When asking for load data, it would be helpfull if you tell us what cartridge and what firearm your loading those into. I'm guessing you're shooting 9 x 19 and lcs is giving you OAL for 38SC. By the way, I've shot ton's of the Zero #136 bullet and use the same OAL as for the # 162. They also make the #161, which is the same as the #162 but.356"(Same diameter as the Hornady HAP) and is very accurate out of Glock barrels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quick Draw McGraw Posted March 17, 2012 Author Share Posted March 17, 2012 Shooting 9 x 19 out of Glock 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reptoid Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 O.K. G17. If it's a stock Glock barrel, try a slightly longer OAL for better accuracy: like 1.130" to 1.140". If you're looking to shoot minor PF, you could also probably knock a couple of tenths off the WW231 powder charge and still make minor easily. 4.3 grs. WW 231 behind the #136 bullet @ 1.130" makes 1050 FPS (131PF)out of my G34 and is very accurate Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noylj Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 In theory, the conical will have a slight accuracy edge as the CG is moved back further than a RNHP. In theory, the RNHP has a slight edge in feeding reliability. Your gun will determine how the theory matches up with reality. PS: the conical section is the ogive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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