Wakal Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Some quick thoughts in no particular order about what Liota and I saw here on the first day of SHOT. As mentioned in the IOR scope thread, their new 1-10 is very trick. First focal plane M8 type reticle with green illumination, second focal plane dot with red illumination. 35mm tube, very clear. Nice piece of glass. http://picasaweb.google.com/lpwakal/SHOTDay1?authkey=Gv1sRgCJvfwoHWwqXoKA&feat=directlink#5563918784245394706 http://picasaweb.google.com/lpwakal/SHOTDay1?authkey=Gv1sRgCJvfwoHWwqXoKA&feat=directlink#5563919175760513730 IOR also has a new 12-52. Cams available in 338, 50, and a third caliber that escapes me. Note three color markings on the elevation...neat idea, easy to not get lost as you dial up from zero. http://picasaweb.google.com/lpwakal/SHOTDay1?authkey=Gv1sRgCJvfwoHWwqXoKA&feat=directlink#5563794224102986370 http://picasaweb.google.com/lpwakal/SHOTDay1?authkey=Gv1sRgCJvfwoHWwqXoKA&feat=directlink#5563794414207977394 http://picasaweb.google.com/lpwakal/SHOTDay1?authkey=Gv1sRgCJvfwoHWwqXoKA&feat=directlink#5563794233873949394 Sabre has a new bullpup semi-auto 50 BMG. 18 pounds. Awesome. $6,500. http://picasaweb.google.com/lpwakal/SHOTDay1?authkey=Gv1sRgCJvfwoHWwqXoKA&feat=directlink#5563794306495715058 JP has a new AR15 that looks like a scaled down version of his nifty side-charging .308. The complete gun (top) is pretty hot (the bottom gun is a upper; it uses a standard charging handle as well as the side charger since it fits regular lowers; nice but the complete gun is very clean). Too heavy in the snout for my taste, but I'm a little guy, shy and retiring, and heavy barrels are too much for me. With a mid weight barrel, I think this would be the best off-the-shelf three gun rifle on the market. http://picasaweb.google.com/lpwakal/SHOTDay1?authkey=Gv1sRgCJvfwoHWwqXoKA&feat=directlink#5563794267367553122 The new Smith and Wesson 6-shot Judge knock-off is, as might be expected, very nice. If it didn't have the side zit, I'd buy one. http://picasaweb.google.com/lpwakal/SHOTDay1?authkey=Gv1sRgCJvfwoHWwqXoKA&feat=directlink#5563794374711334066 The Kel-Tech 15-shot pump bullpup shotgun is amazing. Lighter (and better balanced) than I expected, with simple and logical controls. I want one. http://picasaweb.google.com/lpwakal/SHOTDay1?authkey=Gv1sRgCJvfwoHWwqXoKA&feat=directlink#5563794453109483650 Still in the Kel-Tech booth is their MP7-ish carbine companion to their new Grendel .22WM. Should be about $550, and cries out for a little can and a SBR stamp. Unlike the H&K, we will actually be able to buy these. Want. Stopped by the H&K booth to look at a MP7; more solid construction, sure, but made out of a combination of unobtanium and fail...from the attitude of the folks in the booth, H&K still thinks you suck and they hate you. Or maybe just us http://picasaweb.google.com/lpwakal/SHOTDay1?authkey=Gv1sRgCJvfwoHWwqXoKA&feat=directlink#5563919262368861218 http://picasaweb.google.com/lpwakal/SHOTDay1?authkey=Gv1sRgCJvfwoHWwqXoKA&feat=directlink#5563794462923029538 Played with the Bushnell 1600 ARC line of combination binos (in 12, 10, and 7 power). FAST response time, worked great out to the 145 yards visible in the show, adequate glass, great price point. Gives incline and hold overs for pre-selected loads. Neat. I'll buy one of these to replace my "truck" binos and current rangefinder, although I won't chuck my favorite 10-power Steiners in the rubbish bin quite yet. Liota found the one thing that she wanted from SHOT: http://picasaweb.google.com/lpwakal/SHOTDay1?authkey=Gv1sRgCJvfwoHWwqXoKA&feat=directlink#5563794490198950514 Today's plan is to go annoy the nice folks at STI, Meopta, Al Mar, and then to swing by every scope maker that builds something better than 1-4 for the Annual Scope Trudge (second year). Fun! Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.E.Anglin Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 S&W's judge knock off is pretty funny, Taurus has been copying Smith for so long, I guese its their turn now.... lol Thanks for the pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Liota has good taste. Expensive, but good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin G. Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Looking forward to more installments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakal Posted January 20, 2011 Author Share Posted January 20, 2011 Ran into Larry over at the STI booth...he was very excited with the 6" 10mm (with extra .40 S&W barrel) that the folks at STI put together for him (complete with a perfect serial number and great engraving). http://picasaweb.google.com/lpwakal/SHOTDay202?authkey=Gv1sRgCOCp-LWS8bXyjwE&feat=directlink#5564177661240192946 Here is a picture of the NEW Meopta...the one with the three chevrons instead of the bottom line in the reticle. Still great illumination, just a bit shorter. It should ship in July, and the price point is $100 more than the old one (which will also be available). Seems that the one everyone was messing with at last year's SHOT was one of two prototypes. The entire production run has been going to various NATO units, and they have not imported any to the US. That should change this summer. http://picasaweb.google.com/lpwakal/SHOTDay202?authkey=Gv1sRgCOCp-LWS8bXyjwE&feat=directlink#5564177645656300338 Something for the M14/M1A crowd...ProMag has a new stock on the way for the M14 platform. Not aluminum bedded, but with a combination of polymers and carbon fiber with a plastic shell. Adjustable for length of pull and comb height, molded QD sling swivel points, a rail (with cover) aligned with the barrel on the underside of the forearm...feels great, balanced well and at $299 I think they will sell a lot of them. I'll drop my NM M1A in one as soon as they ship http://picasaweb.google.com/lpwakal/SHOTDay202?authkey=Gv1sRgCOCp-LWS8bXyjwE&feat=directlink#5564177634361465346 And last..these are 12 gauge mag fed gas operated shotguns. Feels like a DPMS 308, only lighter. This is the configuration they are imported...the front sight tower is just clamped on. Free float handguard, choke tubes, and 10-12 round magazines...to hell with Saigas...if they actually ship (and run as described), these will be the heat. http://picasaweb.google.com/lpwakal/SHOTDay202?authkey=Gv1sRgCOCp-LWS8bXyjwE&feat=directlink#5564177613134941714 And last, CRKT has a combination wrench shackle, bottle opener, screwdriver, and spork on the market in stainless steel for $4. Amazing Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maineshootah Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 And last..these are 12 gauge mag fed gas operated shotguns. Feels like a DPMS 308, only lighter. This is the configuration they are imported...the front sight tower is just clamped on. Free float handguard, choke tubes, and 10-12 round magazines...to hell with Saigas...if they actually ship (and run as described), these will be the heat. http://picasaweb.google.com/lpwakal/SHOTDay202?authkey=Gv1sRgCOCp-LWS8bXyjwE&feat=directlink#5564177613134941714 These from American Tactical Imports? I know they have a .410 version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakal Posted January 20, 2011 Author Share Posted January 20, 2011 Also made in Turkey (like the .410), imported through Russian American Armory. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Q Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Also made in Turkey (like the .410), imported through Russian American Armory. Alex Any idea on pricing from Clyde on 12's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz41 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Any updates on the scope trudge? Did you check out the Leupold VX-6 1-6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakal Posted January 21, 2011 Author Share Posted January 21, 2011 Didn't see it over at the Leupold booth...may have had it "out" for a meeting. Quick thoughts (to be accompanied by pictures later)...the S&B Short Dot still has the problem with the eye relief changing as the magnification changes. The Premier Reticles 1.1-8 is still pretty hot, and is due out in September. Rossi now makes a lever-action Judge revolving pistol. No idea what for, but it is entirely too cool. They also made a N-frame type in .44 into a revolving rifle. What was old is new again. The new Kimber DAO single stack "mini" 9mm is very nice. Smith revolvers still have the zit, and thus are not on my "to buy" list. Handling Dirty Harry's .44 was great fun. The 500 from The Spirit was not as heavy as it looked. Ruger's copy of the PF9 is very clean, but the magazine safety is an abomination unto shooters (as is the huge "if this lever is a'risin', your chamber is loaded" (or some such) machined into the loaded chamber indicator). The Lucid 2-7 variable magnifier has poor quality glass and no ability to focus (darn it; I liked the idea a lot). Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaredr Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Some quick thoughts in no particular order about what Liota and I saw here on the first day of SHOT. Still in the Kel-Tech booth is their MP7-ish carbine companion to their new Grendel .22WM. Should be about $550, and cries out for a little can and a SBR stamp. Unlike the H&K, we will actually be able to buy these. Want. Stopped by the H&K booth to look at a MP7; more solid construction, sure, but made out of a combination of unobtanium and fail...from the attitude of the folks in the booth, H&K still thinks you suck and they hate you. Or maybe just us http://picasaweb.goo...919262368861218 http://picasaweb.goo...794462923029538 that looks like a lot of fun - did you happen to catch what caliber/cartridge it is chambered for? Thanks for the photos and write up for all of us who couldn't make it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz41 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Do you have a final report for us Alex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Nice work, Alex... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Nice work, Alex... Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakal Posted January 23, 2011 Author Share Posted January 23, 2011 (edited) Liota has two more days of pictures in her camera...just got home a few minutes ago, and will do one more installment of "This Ole' SHOT". On the Leupold 1-6...not bad glass, but it is not illuminated and they did not know if (or when) they would make it so. In Burris news, they must have got tired of swapping target turrets for the short "hunter" turrets on the nice 1.5-6 XTR illuminated; they will all come with "hunter" knobs now. They are also working a "click" switch for the illumination to replace the problematic XTR system and the F30 push button; no idea when that change would happen. Steiner has a slick little 1-4 with a circle dot; the nice thing about it was that it had the brightest illumination I have ever seen. On max, it was just amazing. Made the Meopta look like a US Optics! The engineer commented that they were considering a 1-6. If they can keep the price under the Z6i, that would be a solid choice. Even so, it was a great little scope. Noticed a oddity at the Sharps/Merwin&Hubert booth...a 16" AR type with a octagon barrel under the handguard. Being a fan of the Winchester '92 in a half-octagon, I found this really cool. Interesting piston system, too. I'll write up "stuff" to go with the pictures once Liota gets them online, but meanwhile (in no particular order): 1911's everydamnwhere. I like 1911's, but wow... The only one that really interested me was the reproduction 1911 (no bloody -A1) that Bill over at C&S is putting out. Absolutely amazing. AR's...now with 142% more pistons! Yay. Pistons. Rah rah. Whatever Pink. Lots of pink stuff. Astounding amounts of pink gear. If it gets more women into shooting, then great. However, making a 2/3rd scale .38+P pink does not make it fun to shoot; cute, maybe, but not something that will encourage range time. Kimber's little 7+1 hinged trigger "carry" gun was my pick for best new pistol...17 ounces, nicely rounded, adequate trigger, nice sights (!)...seemed like a bucket of "win" to me. Although the Taurus Raging Judge in 28 gauge was cool (the ATF told them (at the show) that they couldn't make it, damn it). Kel-Tec's 15-round 26.1" pump shotgun was a hit. If they fix the trigger problem (I noticed that...not that I was checking to see if it would slam fire or anything... but if you held the trigger back and worked the pump, the trigger did not reset. Poking around the web, I was not the only ubergeek to notice that particular "safety" feature), that is. Our crazy friend there at Double Alpha has a new holster hanger for his great holster that may be enough to pry my long-favored Limcat (in a custom hanger) off my belt. His new aluminum mag pouch is slick, too...the adjustment system is a radical departure from what everyone else has been doing, and locks up but releases smooooooth (and is very low profile)...I'm looking forward to buying three to swap out for my current rig. And on a non-SHOT note: If you are ever in Vegas, you can now jump off the observation deck of the Stratosphere and fall 855 feet (while attached securely to a cable, of course). Seeing Vegas at night from that high is special, but then walking the plank and falling to the ground was amusing. Worth the trip. Alex Edited January 23, 2011 by Wakal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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