larryflew Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Just starting out reloading pistol (reloaded shotgun for many years) and considering bullets. From what I have read I can't go wrong with Montana Gold so that's where I am starting (comments welcome). My question is one of weight. Typically have been shooting 115 WWB. I am shooting steel in summer and thinking I should probably upgrade to 124 right from the beginning. Opinions comments etc?? Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 What kind of steel are you shooting? Steel Challenge, or knock down steel? At the same PF a heavier bullet will feel softer, and the heavier bullets seem to take steel down with more authority, but that doesn't matter for SC. Generally speaking, you can't go wrong with Montana Gold. If you decide you don't like them, you'll have no problem finding someone who would buy them from you. R, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryflew Posted December 21, 2010 Author Share Posted December 21, 2010 Knock down so thanks for the info on heavier bullet. Guess I just needed at least one other persons perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Larry, I assume you are shooting an Open gun? If so then the MG 124fmj would be a great choice. If you are shooting Production 9mm then I would suggest the MG 147cmj. Either way you cannot go wrong with MG bullets. If you can get a 6 case order together then order them through Manny Bragg at Mannyusa. His prices are better than directly from MG. I just placed one yesterday and they are being shipped today. Good luck. Ron, aka/Sparky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOF Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 +1 to the 147 grain from a production gun. 3.5 grains WSF should get you about 875/880 fps and you only need 851 to make a 125 PF. This load, IMHO, is noticeably softer than 115 and 124 bullets that make 125 PF and knocks down steel better. At 3.5 grains per load, and 7000 grains in a pound of powder, it's also an economical powder. Montana Gold makes excellent bullets. GOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Larry, I assume you are shooting an Open gun? If so then the MG 124fmj would be a great choice. If you are shooting Production 9mm then I would suggest the MG 147cmj. Either way you cannot go wrong with MG bullets. If you can get a 6 case order together then order them through Manny Bragg at Mannyusa. His prices are better than directly from MG. I just placed one yesterday and they are being shipped today. Good luck. Ron, aka/Sparky You can actually order less than 6 cases from Manny....just call him and he can do even a single case at better than direct price. For a Production gun, I like the 147CMJ myself...runs great, accurate, and knocks steel down nicely. R, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob DuBois Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 9 minor you'll like the 147. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Larry, I assume you are shooting an Open gun? If so then the MG 124fmj would be a great choice. If you are shooting Production 9mm then I would suggest the MG 147cmj. Either way you cannot go wrong with MG bullets. If you can get a 6 case order together then order them through Manny Bragg at Mannyusa. His prices are better than directly from MG. I just placed one yesterday and they are being shipped today. Good luck. Ron, aka/Sparky You can actually order less than 6 cases from Manny....just call him and he can do even a single case at better than direct price. For a Production gun, I like the 147CMJ myself...runs great, accurate, and knocks steel down nicely. R, G-Man, Did not know about the less than 6 cases from Manny; cool! By the way I just finished my 39th year in Law Enforcement on 10/31 and my youngest son-in-law is an FBI agent. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 By the way I just finished my 39th year in Law Enforcement on 10/31 Wow, that's seriously impressive I'm barely past a third of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik S. Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 (edited) Billy Bullets - moly coated lead bullets. They run really well in my gun and feed like a dream since they're so slippery. Heard nothing bad about Montana Gold, though. Buy 100 of each if you can and try them all out. Nothing worse than ending up with a few thousand bullets that either you or your gun don't like. You can always sell them on the forums, though. FWIW -Erik P.S. Edited to add that since they're moly coated, you won't get lead fouling in your barrel. The moly seems to clean right out of my barrel without using a brush. I'm not one of the "I never clean my gun" guys, though. Edited December 22, 2010 by Erik S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M-Bear Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 I like Montana golds but for the price difference I normally shoot Precision Delta's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bello Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 precision delta is also another bullet company to take a look at! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirveyr Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 I shoot both Black Bullet International (moly) and Montana Gold through all of my 9 and 40. I've also been very happy with Precision Delta and Precision Bullets (moly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryflew Posted December 24, 2010 Author Share Posted December 24, 2010 Thanks again. Splitting 4000 115gn, plus got 100 124 gn, 100 147 gn in FMJ and 200 124 JHP MG with local guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradM Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Just saw this as I'm looking to start reloading and shoot production 9mm.. Great info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacoma13 Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Kinda an additional question here. Looking at the lyman reloading manual they tested a speer buller 230 gr tmj. Am I able to swap speer for a different 230 gr fmj bullet? Or do I have to find a recipe that has tested that specific bullet? Thanks MIKE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Kinda an additional question here. Looking at the lyman reloading manual they tested a speer buller 230 gr tmj. Am I able to swap speer for a different 230 gr fmj bullet? Or do I have to find a recipe that has tested that specific bullet? Thanks MIKE Ideally, you would get data for the specific bullet, but it's not realistic at this point with so many different manufacturers. Realistically, if the bullets are the same shape (230fmj tends to be a fairly standard shape) the data from one will be close enough for the other. Some of that is why they tell you to work up towards max loads...just in case there's a subtle difference between bullets. The biggest factor is how much case volume the bullet takes up. If you seat two 230gr bullets so that the base is in the same position in the case, you'll get similar pressure and velocity even if one of them gives a longer or shorter OAL. Yes, there is some difference based on hardness of jacket material, bearing surface and diameter, but those tend to be much smaller factors...probably not enough to cause a safe load to suddenly cause damage, or even come close. R, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacoma13 Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 R, Appreciate the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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