5Shot Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Don't think of the hash marks as anything other than alternate aiming points. Shoot the gun and figure out which hash mark you need at each distance. If they are exact at each 100m/yrd distance then great, but if not, just make a dope card for your gun and memorize it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chills1994 Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 (edited) ahhh....okay....that makes more sense. I am in illinois near st.louis. regularly scheduled 3 gun matches are still kinda relatively new here...in my opinion...so hAving shots out beyond 200 or 300 yards is also still kinda new. consequently, getting a BDC reticle and any one particular load to match up might be kind of a moot point...at our distances. Edited May 24, 2010 by Chills1994 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socal Posted May 24, 2010 Author Share Posted May 24, 2010 I have found the BDC on the TA11 to be dead nuts to the 55gr and 77gr ammo I load and shoot out of my 16" rifle. Had no trouble at all holding on the 400 yd hash and getting 4 / 4 hits on a man sized silhouette, your experience may vary. The ACOG is a battle optic so it is not necessarily designed for shooting MOA or tiny groups at distance, but for what it was designed for, it does a fantastic job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socal Posted May 24, 2010 Author Share Posted May 24, 2010 hey...socal... I know I asked you this via PM...so don't take it the wrong way that I am asking the greater assmebly here out on the public forum... it's just that I can all too easily get buyer's guilt or remorse for something that expensive...that I'd rather hear a multitude of opinions/experiences. just how important is it thaT you match the particular ACOG to your rifle's barrel length and bullet weight in order to get the respective BDC reticles to still jive up? thanks in advance! I zeroed the optic dead on at 100yards according to Trijicons website ( the top of the horseshoe ) and tested it at 200, 300 and 400 and it was adequate to make first round hits on the gongs and flashers I was shooting at. I threw it on my 20", checked the zero which was only slightly different and had the same experience. Soooo, in short, barrel length is a moot point for me. The quality, durability, optical clarity and reticle on that optic is outstanding, it is alotta money but I look at as an investment, absolutely no buyers remorse here. That being said, I did have serious buyers remorse after buying my Aimpoint comp M4, Eotech XPS2 and Leupold CQ/T, and I sold each and took a hit. I would have been $$$ ahead if I just sacked up and bought the ACOG first. Like they say... buy once, cry once. Hope that helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 hey...socal... I know I asked you this via PM...so don't take it the wrong way that I am asking the greater assmebly here out on the public forum... it's just that I can all too easily get buyer's guilt or remorse for something that expensive...that I'd rather hear a multitude of opinions/experiences. just how important is it thaT you match the particular ACOG to your rifle's barrel length and bullet weight in order to get the respective BDC reticles to still jive up? thanks in advance! I zeroed the optic dead on at 100yards according to Trijicons website ( the top of the horseshoe ) and tested it at 200, 300 and 400 and it was adequate to make first round hits on the gongs and flashers I was shooting at. I threw it on my 20", checked the zero which was only slightly different and had the same experience. Soooo, in short, barrel length is a moot point for me. The quality, durability, optical clarity and reticle on that optic is outstanding, it is alotta money but I look at as an investment, absolutely no buyers remorse here. That being said, I did have serious buyers remorse after buying my Aimpoint comp M4, Eotech XPS2 and Leupold CQ/T, and I sold each and took a hit. I would have been $$$ ahead if I just sacked up and bought the ACOG first. Like they say... buy once, cry once. Hope that helps! gonna assume the above is a typo-if you zeroed a TA11H at 100 yds with the top of the horseshoe, there's no way you'll hit anything beyond about 200. zero it with the top of the dot at 100 meters. then, the dot holds perfect out to 250. after that, assuming your loads are matched to the BDC. the tree works for 300 meters and beyond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socal Posted May 25, 2010 Author Share Posted May 25, 2010 hey...socal... I know I asked you this via PM...so don't take it the wrong way that I am asking the greater assmebly here out on the public forum... it's just that I can all too easily get buyer's guilt or remorse for something that expensive...that I'd rather hear a multitude of opinions/experiences. just how important is it thaT you match the particular ACOG to your rifle's barrel length and bullet weight in order to get the respective BDC reticles to still jive up? thanks in advance! I zeroed the optic dead on at 100yards according to Trijicons website ( the top of the horseshoe ) and tested it at 200, 300 and 400 and it was adequate to make first round hits on the gongs and flashers I was shooting at. I threw it on my 20", checked the zero which was only slightly different and had the same experience. Soooo, in short, barrel length is a moot point for me. The quality, durability, optical clarity and reticle on that optic is outstanding, it is alotta money but I look at as an investment, absolutely no buyers remorse here. That being said, I did have serious buyers remorse after buying my Aimpoint comp M4, Eotech XPS2 and Leupold CQ/T, and I sold each and took a hit. I would have been $$$ ahead if I just sacked up and bought the ACOG first. Like they say... buy once, cry once. Hope that helps! gonna assume the above is a typo-if you zeroed a TA11H at 100 yds with the top of the horseshoe, there's no way you'll hit anything beyond about 200. zero it with the top of the dot at 100 meters. then, the dot holds perfect out to 250. after that, assuming your loads are matched to the BDC. the tree works for 300 meters and beyond. Correct, that is what I was meaning to say, thanks for catching that!!!! Was doing about 5 things at the same time as writing that post --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chills1994 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 well...shucks....I just called larue and they are out of stock. they checked trijicon's website and said it would be two months before they would get any in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beebs317 Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 ACOG TA11 is a great scope, very durable. I'd recommend finding a used one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socal Posted May 28, 2010 Author Share Posted May 28, 2010 They are in stock at Larue, give em a call and have em check their inventory, they had 3 last time I checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beebs317 Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 TA11 vs Variable (1x -4x)?? I'm looking for the "ONE" great optic for under $1000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tuley Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 I just got my TA11-H on Friday (red for me). I noticed something weird: when I look through the scope, in the black below the picture, is the writing "3.5 M249". Now. according to Trijicon's brochure (PDF, pg 5) there's a clear difference between the AR and M249 reticles. Mine looks like the AR version. Does anyone else have this? I suppose that if I have no expectations regarding the validity of the tree and just use it as alternate aim points (and find a long range, figure out what they're really good for with my ammo and rifle) then there's no problem. I just want to know if I was shipped the wrong model. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aessu Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 TA11 vs Variable (1x -4x)?? I'm looking for the "ONE" great optic for under $1000. You cant beat Meopta K-DOT 1-4x for that. about 800usd, true 1x and VERY bright dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 I just got my TA11-H on Friday (red for me). I noticed something weird: when I look through the scope, in the black below the picture, is the writing "3.5 M249". Now. according to Trijicon's brochure (PDF, pg 5) there's a clear difference between the AR and M249 reticles. Mine looks like the AR version. Does anyone else have this? I suppose that if I have no expectations regarding the validity of the tree and just use it as alternate aim points (and find a long range, figure out what they're really good for with my ammo and rifle) then there's no problem. I just want to know if I was shipped the wrong model. Thanks! i think the reticle in the brochure is wrong. my TA-11H says 3.5 M249 inside as well, and my reticle does not match either in the brochure. check the bottom of the tree and you will see the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tuley Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 I just got my TA11-H on Friday (red for me). I noticed something weird: when I look through the scope, in the black below the picture, is the writing "3.5 M249". Now. according to Trijicon's brochure (PDF, pg 5) there's a clear difference between the AR and M249 reticles. Mine looks like the AR version. Does anyone else have this? I suppose that if I have no expectations regarding the validity of the tree and just use it as alternate aim points (and find a long range, figure out what they're really good for with my ammo and rifle) then there's no problem. I just want to know if I was shipped the wrong model. Thanks! i think the reticle in the brochure is wrong. my TA-11H says 3.5 M249 inside as well, and my reticle does not match either in the brochure. check the bottom of the tree and you will see the difference. That's how mine looks, too. I called Trijicon, and the response was that the reticle I'm seeing really is calibrated for a .223 flattop, and that the 1000m mark is there for M249s, since they have a longer range. Made me a little but I have a feeling that by the time I actually get to a range and shoot this thing, everything will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Weidhaas Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 (edited) Bump for more info/opinions of this optic. Would like to hear from folks who have some trigger time behind one (green or red horseshoe ret.). How did the stadia hold-over lines work out with your load? Are you running a secondary optic like a MRD or are you running the ACOG solo? If you zero the dot at 100, the top of the tree is 300, so your 200 yard poa would be the blank spot between the bottom of the dot and the top of the stadia tree?...seems a little weird to me. Any thoughts? Thanks, Nick- Edited October 19, 2010 by Nick Weidhaas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socal Posted October 19, 2010 Author Share Posted October 19, 2010 Hey Nick - A little update after running this scope for a few months and a few thousand rounds... The short answer is... I LOVE that optic. Like I said in the original post, I have been through probably a dozen optic combos before I got the ACOG and finally settled on that. It took me a little practise to get used to running it on CQB courses but I would swear that I am just as fast with the ACOG now as I was with my Eotech. As far as the hold over stadia, I shoot 77gr MK262 Clone ammo pretty much exclusively so with the optic zeroed at 100, the holdovers are pretty damn close, they actually seem to be a bit generous past 300, meaning that I put the 400 yd stadia on the bottom of the human torsoe silhouette for center mass hits. I shoot weekly out to 600 without any issues at all. I have never really shot much distance with XM193 or M885 or any 55gr ammo so I cannot comment with certainty how the holdovers work on those but, what little I have shot with 55gr ammo has been pretty close. I had to show off to a friend who I took shooting last friday by going 10/10 on a steel human silouhette at 425 yards from a sitting position. Awesome!!! I have also had verified hits on a 16" diameter plate at 900 yards using the stadia in the optic. The glass is crystal clear, clicks are nice and firm, eye relief is more than generous, and it just works... no batteries... the optic is always there, ready to go. Hope that helps, it was an expensive purchase but one that I have absolutely 0 buyers remorse over. I am confident that the ACOG will outlast me. Cheers Shawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 (edited) I love this reticle... Edited November 13, 2010 by outerlimits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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