After reading this thread, I wondered how the accuracy of the M&P could be as bad as has been reported and how it compared to other production guns. So yesterday, I used sandbags at 25 yards and compared M&P 9L and standard, glock 17 and 34, XD and a Beretta 92fs. I found that, basically, the groups were interchangable at 2-3" for each. In fact, the 9L gave the very best group at just under 2", although I think that is really because it has the best trigger of the bunch. I also think that all of the guns are actually capable of better as the more time I spent with each gun the better the groups for each became. I think I peaked at 2" with production guns. Factory Blazer was used for all groups.