Doug H.
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That's good to hear that you are getting it going. The hybrids being long enough to stick like that is a problem that had never occurred to me. Good luck with it. Are you shooting the upcoming PRS match over there in WA?
That's what I built the gun for, but I need to get it dialed in before I start shooting it in matches.
Doug
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My biggest problem so far has been getting the 105 Hybrids to feed. The bullet is so long and thin it can fit between the locking lugs and hits the back of the barrel instead of going in the chamber. I have a JP 6 Creed barrel now that is chamfered around the chamber and feeds every time. Still finishing up load development but looks like I will be around 2950 fps with 44 grains of Superformance.
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I don't think I've ever heard of a match that they were illegalWith so many outlaw matches, you're probably safest contacting each club you're interested in.
Every USPSA pistol match.
I know this is in the multi-gun forum. I don't know if USPSA multi gun rules specifically allow them, but pistol matches don't.
Yes, they are allowed. USPSA Multigun Rules, 5.2.5 - ...Thigh holsters and mag holders are specifically allowed.
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Clearly a DQ. The shooter has changed his focus to the reload and does not even appear to be sighting the gun. I would not have let him continue. Kurt, the difference between what you said you do and what this guy did is huge. When you burn a round into a target you clearly are putting the round where you want it to go. After re-running the video several times the shooter is surprised by the shot but continues to run the stage. In USPSA 10.5.11 and 10.4.4 would apply. In 3GN 2.2.3 and 2.2.4.
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Set up a sling for both your long guns and your pistol will be holstered. If a match like Ironman has you run all three guns without staging any guns you will start with one long gun, sling one long gun and have the pistol in a holster. I have never seen 2 long guns slung at the same time at any match.
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Michael, 1moa is not going to be good enough. I read a pretty long article by Brian Litz, and with a lot of scientific evidence that I'm sure you would enjoy, his number for PRS is .7". Anything under that is awesome, but that is what you need. I wish I could remember where the article was, it has been several months since I read it. I'm also trying to pull info out of a brain that is heavily influenced by oxycodone. It's like trying to swim through pea soup.
Also just read a review on one of his 223 barrels. Several groups fired, .75 was the best, the average was around 1.3". The writer was very pleased as he was hoping to get at least 2moa. wow.
I'm in complete agreement that sub-MOA will be the requirement. I hope the recovery goes well.
JP, they have the experience the quality and some of the best customer service in the industry. Have a question, just give them a call and talk to a tech who is an actual shooter and knows what you are talking about. I just bought one of their 6mm Creedmoor barrels and look forward to 1000+ yard shooting pleasure.
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Certainly they have the reputation and I have always been impressed with their products that I own or have seen in use. If I had my way, I'd just have them build an LRP-07 for me in 6.5 and be done with it. But that is too costly for me. I have had it on my To Do list to call in and talk to somebody about their barrel profiles. I really don't understand what hey are going for with the skinny profile under the handguard. I'll try to have them explain it to me. It was exciting to see them offer the 6mm option as a basic factory option. :-) I think I'll stick with 6.5mm but it shows the gains these calibers are making in the marketplace.
I have an LRP-07 and it is really nice but if you already have a AR-10, just swap the barrel with the JP 6.5 Creedmoor. The price includes a new JP high pressure bolt!
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JP, they have the experience the quality and some of the best customer service in the industry. Have a question, just give them a call and talk to a tech who is an actual shooter and knows what you are talking about. I just bought one of their 6mm Creedmoor barrels and look forward to 1000+ yard shooting pleasure.
Doug
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The better question is what to do with the leftover ammo since packing and shipping afterwards is the last thing on your mind.
I just put it back in the original boxes and stuff it in my checked luggage. You get up to 11 pounds that you can put in your bags.
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Using an MagPul MIAD on my LRP-07, same as all my other ARs, just feels right to me.
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Aimpoint PRO, runs around $400 and includes the mount and scope covers. I bought one for my 9mm carbine.
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Thanks for sharing that info Doug, I have never seen a 20 rd box mag for a bolt gun, I will have to look into one.
I had one welded up from an AI mag top and a 308 mag body.
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my first year at the Ironman, I took my .308 bolt gun, its an older Remington 700 PSS with the standard 4 round non-drop free magazine. I didn't know what to expect, but had my dope sorted out to 800 before showing up. What I didn't expect was staging the gun empty and loading on the clock initially. It took me a very long time to click ammo into the ejection port before engaging the 550 yard targets. Got my hits fine, but when I had to load after hitting the 2nd target once, I realized I was at a huge disadvantage with my current setup. I didn't make it past the 550 yard targets, shooting them 3x each before my time ran out. I didn't manage to setup another gun for the next year, so I didn't even take it.
Even with a box mag bolt gun, you are still only going to have 10 rds in each mag and will need at least 15 if you don't miss, meaning that you will still have to reload on the clock. The only way to have enough ammo in the gun, is to have a platform that will give you at least 20 rds to start. That means you need a semi-auto. Your follow up shots will be 2x as fast to boot. I plan on building another LR gun someday for that match and will probably go with .308, if for nothing else, because its likely you will leave the brass behind. .308 brass is pretty much a no cost to me, but 6.5 CM are expensive to throw away. Besides, a .308 will do everything you need out of a semi out to 900, even with a shorter barrel.
I disagree that you only have a max of 10 rounds, I just had a 20 round mag made for my bolt gun by Higher Capacity. I do agree that a gas gun is better for follow up shots and speed. You just stay in the scope and keep plugging. I've shot Ironman with a bolt gun (twice) and a gas gun (twice) and I really enjoy the gas gun. Got all the bonus targets this year and one of my squad mates calculated the benefit vs the time I spent and he said I benefited by about 65 seconds. If you are a first class bolt gun shooter it may not make that much difference, but for the average guy like me gas is the way to go.
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Looks like your enter key needs a rebuild, it just doubled on ya!
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I used to shoot the Black Hills Reman 68s but now only shoot PMC .223 55s regardless of distance. Worked good as far out as 550 at Rocky Mountain this year. Shoots a little flatter than the 68s and right at 1 moa out of my JP barrel.
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I own the following red dot sights, Fastfire I, II and III, CMore STS and SlideRide, JPoint, Aimpoint H-1 and PRO. I've had good luck with the Fastfire II and III. The Fastfire I sights had a tendency to fall apart with recoil. I kept 2 in rotation so I could always have a backup, the broken ones would be replaced by Burris without question. I have a JPoint in my gear closet, it broke the first practice session that I used it mounted on a Glock 34. I could not recommend one for use on a pistol. The CMore STS is about the same as the RTS except the RTS has a rounded window. I had it mounted on the same G34 as the JPoint and I used it untill I moved to a STI Open gun. The dovetail mount on the 34 was not strong enough to hold tight so I drilled a hole forward of the dovetail and added an extra screw there which worked. Never had a problem with that sight on the 34. It seems pretty robust and I would give it my recommendation. Aimpoints are great red dots but not for slide mounting. I've seen some H-1/T-1s on side mounts that would work well, but they are spendy.
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I don't always shoot a carbine, but when I do, I prefer to shot at visible targets of approximately 4 MOA that are visible and between 80 -400 yards.
Stay thirsty for long shots my friend!
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No all I said was that Armalite ALWAYS called it a carbine so any AR-15/M-16 varrient in 223 would be a carbine. Can you have a 223 rifle? Sure just not if it is an AR. Sure you can have a 308 carbine short barrel and all......BUT NOW YOU ARE ONCE AGAIN NOT TALKING ABOUT RIFLE SHOTS!!! You would be talking about CARBINE SHOTS!....Or major thread piracy
Avast yee prepare to be boarded!Armalite may have always called it a carbine but the US Army calls it a rifle or carbine depending on the model. In the Army Rifle Marksmanship Manual, FM 3-22.9, the following designations are listed: M-4 Series, Carbine; M16A2/A3 Rifle; M16A4 Rifle; M16A1 Rifle.
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Outside of just a handful of heavy metal guys there are NO RIFLES IN OR SPORT!!!!! Plenty of dinky little carbines who's utility at long range is more than questionable, but damn few rifles. I would say YES we need more that 60 yard RIFLE shots, but who really cares about a carbine.
So is my 20" JP a rifle or a carbine? How about SPRs with 18" barrels? Does it really matter? 600 yards for a full size silhouette is a bit long but doable by average guys that can shoot and know their dope. 350 seems to be the point that the majority can live with based on after action questionnaires from the NWMGC and anecdotal feed back from shooters.
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I know Stlhead is not a troll, he's not even that ugly. I appreciate the color commentary that he brings to the forum.
I believe that shooting a rifle past a few hundred yards is different skill than shooting a rifle like a pistol. They are both legitimate skills and should be tested in a match. I had never shot a rifle past 100 yards when I started shooting 3 gun and I really enjoy the long range targets. I understand the gaming aspect of competition but I feel that allowing shooters to toss rounds several hundred yard without aiming is not a test of skill and is not safe. Long range targets should have a high enough value so that the shooter must engage them to score well on a stage.
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I will see your Martin Luther and raise you a Monty Python:
She turned me into a newt.....well I got better.
But seriously, if you enter a match and the scoring system is posted there can be no complaint that the match was scored as advertized. Could someone else have won if the scoring were different, of course. I have seen the OP lose and win the same match depending on how the scores were calculated. The difference was less than 1 match point as I remember and when the match was scored as advertised he came out on top. I know, I made the call. As for TT vs 100 points per stage it makes little difference to me because I'm not that good.
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Finally got out and shot some test loads. Using Superformance powder from Hornady I ran loads at 41.0, 41.5, 42.0 and 42.5. No pressure signs and most of the rounds went into less than 2" at 200 yards (I wasn't really shooting for groups). Speeds with the 42.5 loads were around 2950 ave. I need to work up a few more grains and find the accuracy nodes but looks like it will be no problem pushing the Berger 105 Hybrids at 3000, which was my initial goal.
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Ouch! I think the only way to decide what barrel is best for you is to buy one of each and shoot them for a while. Each person will come up with a different answer which is why a question like the OP posted is pretty worthless. I have 16, 18 and 20 inch ARs in the safe but I always come back to the 20 for serious matches.
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All three of those will give you the ability (but not the skill) to hit targets at that range. See if you can find folks in your area that have those scopes and look through them. In 3 gun skill is more important than equipment. Good luck on your journey.
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Doug I know for a fact that JP is making some 6MM Creedmoor barrels that our shooting lights out, I don't believe they have them just ye. I also know Dustin there very well. He currently is shooting a JP PSC-12 in 260 Remington. He also shoots 123g bullets, but his velocities are higher than yours. You should give him a call. He also has several other good loads for the 260 as well. I purchased mine from him last year.
When I talked with the JP guys last week they said they have 6mm Creed barrels in stock but the are not listed on their website.
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Avast yee prepare to be boarded!
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Posted · Edited by Doug H.
No. It may have moved east but is no longer at COSSA in Bend. By the way, a blue filter on your light will make those orange clays pop out of the smoke.
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