Doug H.
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1 procedural for not following the WSB
10.2.2 A competitor who fails to comply with a procedure specified in the written stage briefing will incur one procedural penalty for each occurrence. However, if a competitor has gained a significant advantage during non-compliance, the competitor may be assessed one procedural penalty for each shot fired, instead of a single penalty (e.g. firing multiple shots contrary to the required position or stance).
I do not believe there is enough of a significant advantage gained by reloading from the belt to apply a per shot penalty
10.2.4 A competitor who fails to comply with a mandatory reload will incur one procedural penalty for each shot fired after the point where the reload was required until a reload is performed.
Doesn't apply. Reload was performed, just not from the location specified in WSB.
The call would be totally stage dependent. It would be possible to gain a significant advantage by not making the reload from a barrel depending on how the stage was laid out. Not enough info from the OP to make the call but I would be inclined to lean towards the per shot penalty because in the scenario listed by the OP the shooter had made the decision to leave a mag on his belt which shows intent to skip the barrel reload.
Doug
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1 Procedural for reloading from the belt + 1 per shot fired from that same magazine until another mag change was completed using the correct magazine staging location.
One per shot is the procedural, no need to add another Procedural for failure to follow the stage . 10 shots from the incorrect mag, 10 procedurals. The RO should not have started the shooter until he complied with the stage description and removed the mag from his belt.
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I load my first mag full on an open bolt after that all my mags are down at least 2 rounds. I got tired of dropping mags after a reload like the OP. If you need more than 28 rounds after a reload get bigger mags.
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I don't think the rules support it as the RO is not supposed to start the shooter in an incorrect start position. Besides that there will be a large number of targets they will not be able to engage. If a guy wanted to run a local match with his pistol I don't really see the harm. Not sure I would bother putting in the scores though.
I like this answer. You want to just shoot your pistol then shoot a pistol match. No rifle or shotgun, no 3 gun match because the shooter could not comply with the start conditions.
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I use Blade-tech double mag pouches for my 31 round Glock mags.
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T-Bones at the Red Rock Casino in Vegas, right down the street from the Desert Sportsman. A bit spendy but the food is excellent and wait staff is very nice.
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As long as there is no safety issue I would not stop a shooter who has fallen. I have seen many, some pretty painful. The shooter has to make the decision to continue or retire. Perhaps at a local match with new shooters you would stop them and let them reshoot but at a big match the ROs should not be giving out freebees.
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I run a 3 mag drop leg pouch made by The Vest Guy. He makes them custom and I ordered the pouch with no top flaps and to fit 8 round mags so the 12s stick out. I've carried 17 and 20 round mags in it and never had one fall out but they do wobble a bit!
About half my mags have the R&R kydex clips and I use them occasionally but I feel more secure with the pouch.
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Aimpoint PRO on my JP GMR-13. 1x, works great, reasonable price.
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I had been 100% satisfied with Fiocchi Low-Recoil slugs until last weekend's match where I had one squib on me. Lots of strange colored smoke rolling from the loading port, a scorched hull and about 10 minutes whittling a shotgun squib rod from a section of target stick has me only about 99.2% satisfied now. Luckily, the RO stopped me from loading more and continuing. If anyone is looking to try some out, there is the remainder of a box of them in a garbage can in Central Oregon. The bases on a couple of them looked discolored in spots, like they had been exposed to something corrosive. It's never dull on the clock in 3-Gun, that's for sure.
I had some get rained on once and then squib later when shot. Luckily it was off the clock when they squibbed and my wife noticed the slug poking out the end of my barrel. I still use the Fiocchi 7/8 slugs but I never use ones that show any corrosion.
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Dude, you gotta hit em in the head, requires at least 10 power!
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Calling hits on reactive steel and slug gongs was considered optional and is not required under USPSA rules. I made the decision on my stage, 11, to call hits on the rifle steel unless the shooter asked us not to call hits. Not one shooter asked us not to call hits.
Doug
8.6.5 Calling hits on self indicating targets or fixed metal targets by range officials is allowed and not considered interference or coaching. If range officials call a hit in error, when an actual miss occurred, the call of “hit” will stand and is not reason for a reshoot. -
Shirts, smirts, those thing don't give you blisters, go troll some other thread like who else runs an absolute zero.
I tried running an absolute zero but I kept getting trigger freeze! My 3 gun socks are what ever is clean in my dresser when I'm packing.
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I run a JP 20" upper that I bought about 8 years ago that has had the barrel changed to a new JP 20" in 2014 and a Carbon Arms 15" handguard installed. The lower started as a Rock River gun I bought 10 years ago and has had a MagPul PRS stock, M1AD grip, JP trigger, JP red buffer and spring installed. If you don't want to do your own build, you can save yourself a lot of work and just buy the JP 15. The JP 15 can be built to your spec and has all the go fast parts included. Plus JP is a big supporter of 3 gun.
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The thing about angle iron and pipes is that they still can spin but they present a shoot-able target even after spinning unlike a plate which presents a very small target when bladed. The only thing I don't like about those targets is that you can't shoot them with a pistol and so it's a shotgun only target which reduces the ways a stage can be shot.
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That's why we moved to November. Should be done shooting by 10:30 or so and there will be plenty of beer at the range afterwards. Not Miller though, we like our shooters too much.
Yea, it kind of sucks when you have to stop shooting because the sun is coming up!
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I shoot a JP and use PMC Bronze .223 55 gr from 0 to 600 yards. Past 600 I shoot my JP in 6mm Creedmoor.
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I was working as a helicopter mechanic and installing some equipment for a movie on a Jet Ranger. All the passengers and another mechanic were crowded around the helicopter and a pretty woman was in the front seat holding a small monitor. I was trying to find a place to put a battery that was to power the film electrical system and I asked her "do you mind if I put the power between your legs?" The other mechanic walked up to me laughing and I was a bit surprised until he told me what I said and the light came on. Oops!
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Most people just are not aware that they are not in compliance and are usually not upset when enlightened. I have called back ROs in the past when they have blown a call on a target. I've alerted them both for and against the shooter. I've had the same done to me and figure if I shot it I bought it. Whining because you didn't get away with something is juvenile. Everyone makes mistakes and we need to assure that the scores at the end are as close to correct as possible. Any other way is unfair to the other shooters in the division.
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Not just like naked trooper, exactly 100% naked trooper. Sunburns, abrasions, brass burns, jacket fly back to the junk, and balls on the ground prone. All hard core, no bullshit who wants it more, 3 gun carnage. Moltke could still use his flintlock, but I am not sure it would be much advantage. Hawaiian Tropic could be approached for sponsorship.
Not sure I want to do "Full" Naked, would this be acceptable and tactical enough for Naked Trooper Division?
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How about the sunscreen division? Competitors could shoot any gun at any target it was safe to do so at, with no limitations on guns or accessories, and they would be allowed to stage guns and ammo and accessories wherever they wished on the stage as long as it was safe. But they would only be allowed to wear ankle socks, low top shoes, and a gun belt, plus eye and ear protection. No clothes, hats, scarfs, visors, gloves, or other body coving of ANY kind.Like
Like Naked Trooper!
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Looks like the Cowboy Division was a little early.
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Shouldn't this be in the humor forum?
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Just suck it up and do the JP-15, you won't regret it and you won't have to do a bunch of mods.
Doug
Procedurals per shot or per illegal reload
in USPSA/IPSC Rules
Posted · Edited by Doug H.
No actual WSB has been provided for the stage so we have nothing to add to. Starting a shooter in the correct position is not coaching and is in fact the ROs duty. The CRO running the stage should clear up all these questions (and perhaps have WSB reworded) before the first shot is fired.
Doug