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any update on the outerimpact? is it good?
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On 8/29/2020 at 7:50 AM, Prange said:
Take a season off. Try a different shooting sport.
Air pistol and/or Air rifle could suffice.
You'll know when you're ready to go back.
how about, try a different sport? work on your fitness for a while, etc?
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I started shooting because I always liked guns and wanted to be proficient with it. I then got hooked up and became competitive, and started having fun. So much fun that my other hobbies (like working out at the gym) went away. I also started thinking too much about it, and it became a detriment to other things that require my mental energy. It is an escape, fun, zen moment, relaxing etc etc. So, it clearly has its benefits as a hobby. However, I won't allow it to come at the expense of other things like staying healthy, spending time with family, social life, work, etc. So, at the moment I am trying to put it in its place as a fun hobby, nothing more and nothing less. As for people, I met some really nice people and it exposed me to a segment of society that I did not know about. I also met some really trashy low quality people too. I just dont understand when guys say gun people are the best; there are clearly bigots, low lives, good for nothing type people among them (just like in any other sport). Overall, I think starting competitive shooting had a slight net positive in my life, and I am trying to make it a bigger positive by balancing it with everything else I need to do.
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36 minutes ago, BARRYJ said:
I didn't expect it to be that easy to trim the grip. Is the Legion grip with the tungsten that easy to cut?
even easier!
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9 hours ago, CClassForLife said:
Something like this?
yeah, but with the tungsten infused grip
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4 minutes ago, CClassForLife said:
Thanks. I shoot because I feel I can be the best in the world at it. I continue to shoot until I prove it to myself. The only constraint is that I must do it with the Glock 26.
I am asking because of curiosity, I just want to understand how you think, with the hopes that it would give me motivation.
Even if you have a shot at being the best, is it really worth it? All the time, money, sacrifice....last time I heard even world champions are not making much money, its not the NBA or pro-golf or anything like that. All that time...I don't know, there are more important things to do in this life than dedicating all my time to a game, a hobby in the end.
Don't get me wrong, I am cheering for you.
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My reasons for this gun project: It would still have the nice grip, weight, balance etc. of the X series pistol, but would be shorter and more wieldy.
The alternative is to go to a CZ shadow, but I dont like the DA/SA, so...
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Just now, a_whole_lot_of_freedom said:
I was referring to the guide rod
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oh...never thought of that! I guess you'd need a machinist or best bet is somebody already is selling one for an x-carry
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Just now, a_whole_lot_of_freedom said:
It definitely can be done with not very much work. Tungsten is insanely hard stuff so unless you are a machinist you probably won't be to trim it.
If you think it will help you with transition speed then by all means go for it.
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The grip is made of tungsten infused polymer, and is softer than the bare polymer itself. Like soap, almost
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I shoot a X5 legion in CO (with gray guns trigger). While I like how little recoil it has, and how nicely it returns to zero with the right spring and guide rod combo, I always thought it is too large and unwieldy. It cycles a bit slow, too. I always liked how fast the G19 sized guns can be in transitions, and in cycling (if you are curious, watch CCLASSFORLIFE's videos). I just wish the X5 was a shorter gun. No advantage to added length for CO.
So, here is the idea: get an X-carry slide and barrel, and put it on my legion lower. Trim the extra inch or so from the tip of the tungsten grip module. Trim a reduced power 1911 spring to size. Find (or trim) a tungsten guide rod to size. Put it all together.
I feel this would this be the best possible CO package.
Opinions?
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15 hours ago, CClassForLife said:
Had another classifier match last Sunday and thought I missed GM by 0.07 seconds (current percentage is 94.9455). Fortunately, there's a classifier that was unpaid that pushes my average to 96.0323. So assuming that the club eventually pays their match fee, I'll be GM in CO (boosting Production to M as well). First subgoal is unofficially completed. Attached is a chart of my CO classifier progress. Interestingly, I was a C class as long of a period as I was M.
As for shooting experiments, I've been trying to understand the red dot. Since the SRO is parallax-free, it can be turned 90 degrees and the point of impact will still be where the dot is. I used to try and maintain the gun as upright as possible during hard leans and low ports. Now, I know that the gun orientation doesn't matter. Also, I started taping my optic with blue painter's tape to eliminate the false dot from oncoming sunlight. It also has the benefit of warning me if my eyes aren't target focused (the target disappears to blue if both eyes start to focus on the dot).
From now on, I'll be shooting Open with the CO rig for all matches that aren't Nationals. I like when there's something to chase. Plus, the Open class percentages are surprisingly accurate to overall placement at Nationals as long as classifiers are shot as if in a match situation. So, if I end up having a classification percentage of, say, 70% in Open, then I'll probably be around 70% of whoever wins nats. This will be a good guideline for the long journey ahead. The G26 is doing its job, just gotta make sure I'm doing mine.
Congrats!
Q: Why do you shoot?
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3 hours ago, waktasz said:
names
Mike Seeklander
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I found this. Everything is different in this style of shooting compared to the typical USPSA stage: positions, movement, cadence...lots of move, hard stop, shoot, move again, awkward positions, hard exits etc. vs USPSA you can move fluidly all the time. I think this is the main difference: having to shoot behind barriers (and slicing the pie) make the movement very choppy vs. smooth movement of USPSA.
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I should say, I sense a feeling of superiority here among USPSA shooters, which is not warranted at the top level. I know production GM's in USPSA who can not beat IDPA M's in IDPA. These are different games, and top level shooters exist in both games.
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34 minutes ago, SGT_Schultz said:
How do you two stack up in IDPA after the points down are tallied up?
close, but he still beats me.
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1 hour ago, rowdyb said:
shooting uspsa is actually that skill. then it is up to you to be disciplined enough when you switch about deciding when to pull the trigger.
as someone who shoots both there are definitely very great specialists who only shoot idpa versus the guys who pop in and out from uspsa. but if you're a regular person and you just want to get faster i'd say shoot 12 uspsa matches in a row and then come back to idpa.
too many SS and EX shooters I see in idpa just really don't know what fast running, fast gun handling and fast transitions are. shoot uspsa and you will.
there is a reason most M idpa shooters come in at B in uspsa. i did it when i switched. and the reason is that most idpa shooters are not fast in comparison. coupled with the misguided sentiment that it is speed or accuracy when it really is speed AND accuracy.
btw I am M in ssp, esp, pcc, ccp and cdp and have been a DC like 6 times and won at EX once at nats. so i know idpa. i'm a M in uspsa in Prod and Lim10. and a pcc M in steel challenge. so that's where i'm coming from.
I am M in USPSA, EX in IDPA, both CO. Not a regular IDPA shooter.
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34 minutes ago, SGT_Schultz said:
Is he faster in raw time or total time?
raw time; i am faster in uspsa, he is faster in idpa
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Just now, Tango said:
Thanks for all the suggestions. Yes, aim for zero down, this one is obvious. But I intended to ask: what is the secret to speed in IDPA shooting? In other words, how can one be fast in IDPA? What are the specific skills that make and IDPA shooter a fast one?
I think the answer will not be exactly the same for what it would be for USPSA.
I dont think they are the same skills, here is an example: I have this one shooter friend who is much faster than me in IDPA, but I am faster than him in USPSA. What could cause this?
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Thanks for all the suggestions. Yes, aim for zero down, this one is obvious. But I intended to ask: what is the secret to speed in IDPA shooting? In other words, how can one be fast in IDPA? What are the specific skills that make and IDPA shooter a fast one?
I think the answer will not be exactly the same for what it would be for USPSA.
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Until a month ago I used to dry fire everyday, like a really diverse set of drills for 30 mins, and it paid off tremendously.
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I'd say X5 legion with a tungsten guide rod, 11# spring and GG trigger is still the best polymer gun for soft recoil and return to zero. But I really dislike how heavy it has to be to reduce recoil. I wish Sig would find a way to reduce their bore axis; the distance between beaver tail and muzzle is literally twice that of a Glock (hence, two times the torque under equal force). X5 like gun with reduced bore axis would have been wonderful!
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47 minutes ago, Don_B said:
An open gun with a vertical Cmore mount is 2" offset. So it doesn't matter if it is sighted in at 10 or 15 yards it is still going to be low at 3 yards.
If your setup works for you that is great. Mine works for me so we are all good.
Yea, but it will be at most 2 inches low, and at most distances less low....maybe you miss an A box but you wont pull it into the no shoot because of offset. You shoot open so C's shouldn't be a big deal. Am I missing something?
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i zero at 10yd and try to shoot a 5 shot group in 1 inch circle, then confirm at 25...with 147grain minor PF ammo both are usually dead on....i dont have to think hold overs or anything like that
it maybe a bit high at 40yds, but most likely i will pull down too...so no big deal
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1 hour ago, Don_B said:
With my open gun sighted in at 15 yards the only hold over I worry about is on a very close target, 3-5 yards with a no shoot right below the head. At that distance your poi will be low because of the height the red dot is above your bore. Of course the type of red dot and mount will determine how much that is. That is why you need to know what the holds are for your gun.
The key to this is not to think about it, Just know that on the close targets you will hold at the top of the head
it can't be low more than 2 inches unless you use a ridiculously high optic, but i don't know your setup obviously....worrying about being 2 inch low at super close targets?....i dont know, seems slow to me
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My limited experience showed me that there is a big difference between local and major matches. Performance anxiety, energy conservation through the day, weather, not taking it too conservative, complex stage plans, etc etc. If I were you, I would treat all major matches as if they are the nationals and try to get the relevant major match experience, instead of trying new things. Local matches are good for trying new things.