IVC
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What holsters work for Rugers? I haven't seen inserts for DAA Race Master, so it's either not supported, or it's compatible with S&W trigger guards.
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Both are quality components and DAA is indeed the stiffest (and thickest - don't count on being able to use Tek-Lock on DAA premium belt).
The price difference is primarily from two items (as broadside72 pointed out above) - two extra magazine pouches and the BOSS hanger. Belt and holsters are very comparable and are all high quality options.
Personally, I wouldn't shoot low capacity division without at least 5 pouches. I used to shoot L10 (live in CA) for two years and having 5 pouches was necessary. I had 6 magazines, five on the belt and a Barney. I would load the first round from the Barney, then insert the last magazine, leaving 4 on the belt. On extra-nasty stages I would put Barney into the vacated last pouch, just in case. At least once I had to use it - fumbled one reload and a good stage plan called for 4 reloads to begin with. If you just have 3 pouches, you will always have to have two extra magazines in the pocket, one for Barney and one to load initially. Too much hassle to save a few bucks.
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Thanks guys - it seems that after rollsizing, just run it on 1050 and it will be smooth, particularly after removing the U-die. Possibly go back to Dillon funnels instead of MBF, especially if there are no issues with seating (coated) bullets.
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Thanks - good to hear. I still find it quite lenient on this particular classifier, but I must be getting better with all the dryfire practice I'm putting into my Limited shooting. The draws, transitions, calling shots, etc. are all transferable between divisions and I've done my share of revo reload practice too.
When I analyzed my runs at the match (six classifier stages) my times on 5 of the 6 were good enough for 100%+ and only on El Presidente was my time only good enough for 86%. With points, I ended up with 91%, 85%, 82%, 75%, high-D and a 0. Puts into perspective the value of points in minor, particularly since I believe my C-s and a few D-s were just sloppy handling, not anything that was because of rushing - I (mostly) knew where I missed and it was because the gun recoiled slightly to the side (sloppy grip).
Well, after tonight I should be A class at 81% which includes two high B scores. Need one 95% or two 85% runs for M. At least I have a goal for this year
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I am about to pull a trigger on the Rollsizer since it seems to be *the* setup (at least at the moment) for getting uniform brass and passing the hundo gauge. I'm getting slightly frustrated with the number of cases not passing or barely passing the gauge... My normal 1050 setups use a U-die for sizing (9mm, .40, 38SC) since it was the most reliable way to get the brass to pass the gauge, but I am considering changing it and would need some advice.
First, after rollsizing, is there still a need to run a U-die? I am trying to minimize the amount of force (and vibration) that comes from the sizing station. I have been using One Shot to lube the brass (lightly) and it does wonders for the ease of operation, but I'm thinking that a regular die might be all that is needed now - the rollsized brass would need minimal reshaping to begin with, and not undersizing would make it run much smoother. Thoughts?
Also, I am considering getting a different press (750) for brass processing. With a single toolhead I would keep a universal decapping die and just replace the sizing die and shellplate for processing different calibers, which is very easy and quick (the reason I would prefer it over 1050/1100). In addition, I could have a separate toolhead for calibers I don't reload much or often, so it would be at home on my bench. I know there are quite a few people who process brass in two steps, sizing on one machine and reloading on another. What would be the considerations for this setup if I were to use rollsized brass? Overkill to preprocess brass because the sizing on the primary press will be smooth? Add mouth expander to the processing step and eliminate sizing die from the primary press altogether (wouldn't be able to catch unsized brass)? Any ideas or suggestions?
Finally, the last part that makes my primary press not run smooth is the "popping MBF funnel." It seems that it just likes to pull the cases up no matter what. I have one setup where I expand mouth prior to powder station and MBF die still "pops." I have returned to the original Dillon powder funnel on one setup and it seems to be nicer. Any thoughts on the best setup for mouth expander in the setups I'm considering?
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3 hours ago, waktasz said:
Same here. There are always a handful of ROs and usually multiple CROs on each squad at most of the matches I go to. For incorrect start positions someone just yells stop and sorts it out before they start, assuming someone noticed, to prevent having them have to reshoot.
Agreed, that's how it's at my "home range" where we have 100+ shooters every match (bi-weekly) and a large group of regulars. However, I was at another range and felt like a guest. Wasn't sure about the proper etiquette...
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13 hours ago, egd5 said:
Oh yeah, that's SO simple and easy.
I have a much better way. Just shoot the best you can and let the computer figure it out and then accept it.
One can say the same about calculating the hit factor - "too complicated, I'll have computer figure it out." The only problem is that then you don't know whether to wait on that swinger's second pass or take a possible mike, whether to engage a disappearing target, or how much extra time you can spend on difficult shots to get A vs. C.
If you don't want to know how it works, here is a simple rule of thumb. The ranking cannot flip if one shooter is better on all stages than the other. The ranking is much more likely to flip if you shoot lower scoring division (Production, Revolver, SS) and if your performance varies from stage to stage so that your ranking in the division takes wild swings. For anything more, you'll have to understand the math.
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The easiest way to understand this is by a simple example.
Consider two Production shooters in a simple match with just two stages, 100 points per stage. Shooter 1 wins stage 1 by 5% (100 to 95 points), shooter 2 wins stage 2 by 8% (100 to 92 points). The overall Production winner is based on who won by a larger margin their respective stage - shooter 2 wins the match with 195 points to 192 for shooter 1.
Now consider that there was a PCC shooter who shot just stage 2 and smoked both Production shooters by having double the HF. What this does to the score in *overall* ranking is that it "kills" points on this stage for Production shooters - instead of winning 100-92 points, shooter 2 now wins by half of it, 50-46 points. While this is still the same 8% difference, the *total* of points changed drastically, from 100-92 (8 points) to 50-46 (4 points). When you add up points for Production shooters in *overall* standing, it's now 146 to 145 "win" for shooter 1.
To summarize, what happens when you combine divisions is that the top combined shooter "scales" point differences between competitors in other divisions (while percentage differences are intact), which in turn can swap rankings if this scaling is uneven. For example, any stage that is particularly low-capacity unfriendly will have the totals skewed because the hi-caps will run up the HF and the differences between the lo-caps will be squashed in terms of the total points.
EDIT: There is a link to Practiscore above to a blog that says the same thing... Didn't realize they had it.
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3 hours ago, MemphisMechanic said:
If so it’s never permissable to start with the gun in single action. Unless you’d like to finish the match in Open - or a match DQ if you don’t activate the safety.
It was an unloaded start - both of your points are very valid, but they require loaded start.
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This was an unloaded start and the shooter was already in Open. The reason hammer was up is that he was playing with the gun before putting it down with trigger on the X mark on the table. Technically, it's just a mandatory reshoot in 8.2.2 provided that WSB for this particular classifier cannot be interpreted as allowing hammer up start.
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At the all-classifier (Level 1) match this Sunday a guy started Tick-Tock 13-05 with the hammer cocked. The RO was clearly not certified, which is often the case at Level 1 matches.
I said that the hammer should be down, but didn't interfere further. The RO ran the shooter (low score, inexperienced shooter; not that it matters, but it does...). The main reason I wasn't more forceful is that I looked at the WSB and it didn't say "hammer down," and I wasn't sure about the "default rule" from the top of my head without actually searching for it and significantly delaying the squad. Sure enough, rule 8.1.3 specifies that "... hammer or striker must be fully down...," but it also says "...unless otherwise specified in the stage briefing."
So, first the plain reading of the text. When the WSB does *not* specify hammer position, that is *not* considered as "WSB allows any hammer position because it doesn't forbid hammer up." Instead, it's simply missing the specification, therefore the "must" part of the 8.1.3 kicks in and the hammer must be down. Correct?
More importantly, what *should* a squad member who is not on the staff do at a low level match in situation like this? The rule 7.3.2 is clear that regular competitors who are also ROs have no authority, so the only official action is to bring this up to the MD (there is typically no official CRO/RM and MD doubles as the RM). However, it would quickly become tiresome and ruin the match for everyone if someone kept complaining about all the "shooter ready" and "slide, hammer, holster" commands or complaining about the hammer up on a sub 40% run. What are you guys doing in similar situations (not the theory, the actual doing)?
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Probably discussed in the past quite a bit, but here it goes...
At an all classifier USPSA match on Sunday I shot Revolver Minor (S&W 929) to get some additional scores. (My main division is Limited and I shoot Revolver classifiers as an add-on during my regular bi-weekly matches.) One of the classifiers was 06-04 and the hit factors seemed to be awfully generous, for the lack of better term. The GM cutoff is at 9.37, which is about 4.25 seconds for a clean run. Further, the way targets are arranged, it's mostly clean runs anyways because no-shoots nicely frame the A zone. I shot it in 3.63 seconds, not rushing at all, yet well below the cutoff time for a GM. The only reason it wasn't a 100%+ run is that I pulled the initial shot just a tad into the no-shoot, but that's another story.
Thinking about it, it seems that the 4.25s GM time would be shooting *major* with one reload (~1s draw, ~2s reload, ~.2 for splits/transitions, give or take for faster draw and reload and slower transitions).
First, is this thinking correct? If so, it feels like cheating if HHF is based on the historical pre-minor scores on classifiers that have string(s) with 8 shots and that now eliminate the reload when shot in minor. Is this going to get fixed by the USPSA? While I do want to do well on classifiers and move up (that 100% would've pushed me into M class), I really don't want to get there by falling through the cracks. Thoughts on this in general?
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I think the case retainer is adjusted properly, per instructions and everything I've seen. I guess I could try to move it in either direction to confirm it's all correct, but the problem doesn't happen often so it would be hard to judge whether anything improved. Of course, there is a chance I move it and then don't see any more problems, making me wonder whether it was indeed the issue.
The crux is to figure out *how* the primer ends up flying out and why it's only after a few strokes. Also, how come the primer is not even slightly damaged while it's lingering somewhere around the priming system, clearly out of place.
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I use several types, Federal GM100 for revolver and Winchester for everything else. This was with WSP.
I took the priming system apart and cleaned it. It happened once again, but it’s much more rare now. I also tinkered with the RF100 since it was having issues with the blue plastic piece that makes primers sink into the tube - it would have a vibrating primer sit there forever and block the process. Possibly it caused an issue with flipped or sideways primers, but they never got jammed into the case that way so not sure.
Still investigating...
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Between the two, SS minor - you get two extra rounds compared to SS major which is supposed to create a sort of parity, depending on the stage designs. On the other hand, L10 minor has no additional benefit over major and is even worse than Limited minor - you get the same capacity of 10 and you get minor scoring.
Minor scoring is not a problem initially, but when you start speeding up and realize that on a 5 HF stage a major C costs you 0.2 seconds while a minor C costs you 0.4 seconds, you start seeing that you are better off taking extra time in minor to get A-s, which in turn makes it much harder to speed up. You have to be an expert in shot-calling and very accurate to begin with if you want to be competitive in minor without any additional advantage such as the added capacity. (For reference, Revolver minor is an advantage over major because of slow reloads and only 6 rounds in major.)
Wait until you get back in the game to make sure you want to continue before getting an Open gun. The same advice as if you were starting for the first time.
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Thanks - I do use RF100 and it will occasionally produce an upside down primer. Thinking of it, when the primers started kicking out of the 1050, I also stopped having rounds with the upside down primers, so it's possible that the upside down primers are finding their way out of the press instead of being pushed into the brass.
Taking apart the priming system seems like the most logical next step. I don't do it, but I should (also answers the question of how often I clean it - very rarely
). I clean up and lubricate the press when I change calibers, but I don't mess with the priming system.
Since I have to order a replacement cover on top of the brass feeding plunger (has crack, but still works), I might as well get a few spare parts for the priming system such as the plastic tip and alike.
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While reloading couple thousand rounds of 9mm today I would occasionally see a primer fly out of the press in the direction of around 2 o'clock (between priming and swaging stations) and land about a foot from the press. I would inspect the cases in other stations and, sure enough, there would be a primerless case under the bullet seating station. The primer was not damaged and looked completely "clean."
Anyone had similar experience or knows what the cause would be? The plastic tab on the priming station too loose or something?
If I could replicate it consistently or it happened often, I could diagnose it. The worst part is that the primerless case would always be in the bullet seating station, meaning that by the time I see the primer flying out, the case has passed the charging and MBF stations, so it's too late to figure it out. Strange...
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Did you shoot Limited or Production? The caliber would suggest Limited, but the capacity and reloading suggest Production. Your rig not only affected how fast you could reload, but also how often you would have to do it, which affected overall strategy.
If I were to shoot such a rig, the draw speed would be the least of my concern. You normally have a few steps to your first position anyways, so a fraction of a second per stage, if that, should be negligible. The most difference would come from modifying strategy and slow reloads if you couldn't get them on the move.
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As a side issue, here is an old thread from 2001 about how USPSA (used to) see HHF... Sticky in Classifiers Section...
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Not sure about the App Store, but mine is working properly on my phone (still).
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6 hours ago, TrackCage said:
Correct. Are you implying it's only important to track drill progress (times) for lower classifications?
I’m implying that working off of the start beep alone is a much more advanced technique and that lower classifications can hurt their training if they start using it before they are ready.
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What I’m saying is that it takes a much higher level before it makes sense to work only off of the start beep. It’s reserved for when you have elements of shooting sorted out, from basic transitions and shooting on the move to shot calling.
As you’re developing the technique, par time is the main way to track progress.
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On 12/11/2019 at 9:11 AM, B_RAD said:
Speaking for myself, I mostly just use the timer for the beep. Don’t really do par times anymore.
On 12/11/2019 at 9:57 AM, TrackCage said:P.S., I too am guilty of using the timer mostly for a start signal and do not actively track my drill progress over time. Maybe I should be.
Let me guess - neither of you is around the 55% national median, high C/low B shooter, right?
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1 hour ago, nasty618 said:
Classification system is not broken. Change my mind.
I don't think it's "broken" either, just that it's evolving into a less useful system with every upgrade of the HHF.
I haven't suggested any changes, which happens to be the most common bickering concept here - remove this, change that, abolish it all, recreate it into something else... None of that. I agree that it is what it is and that it works the way it is designed to work (except that classifications are not recalculated against the new HHF when it's updated, which creates internal inconsistency).
If anything, just getting more statistics out of the USPSA would be extremely helpful - have a separate "geek page" on the website where you can look at your actual ranking percentile, historical HHF, stats on classifications and all those goodies that a few members here have to compile manually. It took a long time before USPSA would even disclose the HHF in a classification calculator, which I find counterproductive because it's (one of) the way(s) I measure progress and whether my training is effective - I mean, everyone who trains will have a timer to keep track of times on various drills and measure progress. Classification percentage should be no different. Imagine if your timer got "adjusted" to a shorter second every so often because someone somewhere shot a drill in shorter time. It would create a moving target that is not all that useful.
). I clean up and lubricate the press when I change calibers, but I don't mess with the priming system.
Why don’t classifications go down?
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Yet, the classification system works off of the former.