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Hi Dahzi,
The wear on your index pawl shows it is pushed up too forcefully by the pawl spring (creating the jolt and loud click). If you press down on the pawl with your finger it should be very easy to push it all the way down.
The pic I attached shows the pawl on one of my 2 650's (the oldest one) that I haven't replaced in 15 years. Not a lot of visible wear.
I measured the springs of both presses and they are 0.42 and 0.44 inches long and fairly weak.
Chrs from the Netherlands,
RGA
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Like the great philosopher Hannibal likes to say: "I love it when a plan comes together!"
I managed to combine a (manual) Harrell's powder measure with the press. Let's see if the 650 can produce just as consistent and straight ammo as my Harrell's presses.
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I played a little with my .308 casefeed adapter and placed a piece of tape covering the top 1/2 inch of the slot in the adapter. It will now reliably feed 6BR cases.
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Thanks Sleepdoc!
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Thank you Intel6!
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Hi,
For a project I want to load 6mmBR on a Dillon 650. Who has done it?
- Which casefeeder adapter will work? (A 7,62x39 one?)
- Which powder funnel is suitable?
Thanks,
RGA
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Excellent! What was the diagnosis?
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That would be a good test!
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7 hours ago, teros135 said:
I wonder if the problem is that they need a different drum for pistol, with a smaller bore, like Hornady and RCBS. Mk7's is "one size fits all" and doesn't adapt to pistol so well.
I came too the same conclusion/suspicion/observation after testing my Evo powder measure against a Dillon, Harrerll's and a Hornady powder measure. I shared this with Mark 7 back in december 2018 but they were not interested.
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Measure the base of your brass, maybe it is out of spec (expanded or too fat rim). Have you reloaded this brass before using this shell plate? Does the brass fit in a regular .223 shell holder?
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Do you have more than 1 conversion kit? Sometimes different caliber kits use the same bushing. Maybe you're lucky.
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1 hour ago, Allenmat said:
I hope the new linkage will improve the Evo drop, although I think the problem may be more in the large diameter of the rotary plunger in the powder measure. The Hornady uses a smaller diameter plunger to measure pistol powder drops and has a larger one for Rifle, so if there is any "splash" out of powder during high speed reloading, the smaller diameter of the Hornady would "splash" out less, if it does it at all due to the different activating linkage.
I came too the same conclusion/suspicion/observation after testing my Evo powder measure against a Dillon and a Hornady powder measure. I shared this with Mark 7 back in december 2018 but they were not interested.
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Sounds like your primerpockets are expanding too much. How many times have you loaded this brass?
Ditch the brass in this lot, start fresh and lower your load is what I'd do.
Learned this the hard way a few decades ago shooting a service rifle match (AR15). A primer came out of a loose pocket during transport from mag to chamber and got stuck under my trigger group. This prevented me from finishing the match. I thought I could use this batch of expensive RWS brass one last time but I was wrong....
So since then, when I encounter a case where the primer goes in without resistance I discard it.
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FWIW, Been using springs only on all my Dillon powder measures for 2 decades now. No (consistency) problems observed over the years what so ever. I do this mainly because I like to run my powder measures not at the designated stations. I can't use the linkage this way.
I also run a Dillon measure this way successfully on my Mark 7 Evolution.
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Hi Ringram,
What exactly have you heard about Revolution issues? Just curious.
Thx,
RGA
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Is it possible for you to post a few pics of the problem?
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Another variable to consider. A lathe style trimmer that uses a pilot in the case mouth will lead to not a square cut if the pilot has a less then perfect fit. This allows the case to wobble slightly when trimming.
Indexing of the shoulder does not have this disadvantage and will lead to a square cut (most of the time).
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https://www.markvii-loading.com/Mark-7-Optimized-Die-Pack_p_483.html
Pictures of the optional die pack on the MK7 site show:
- Mighty Armory decapper die ($45)
- Mighty Armory hold down die ($50)
- Redding sizer die (9mm example: standard $36 or carbide $95)
- Lee universal expander die (I assume) ($12)
- Redding competition seater (9mm example $85)
- Redding micro-adjustable taper crimp die (9mm example $75)
You can't compare this to the Lee die set that came with my press of course. The seperate prices I took from the Mighty Armory site, Natchez and Midway for comparison to the pack price (9mm $461). But I have to add I'm not sure of the exact content of the 9mm die pack as there is no description. I based the prices on what I see in the pics. So YMMV.
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Just to clear things up as I suspect I might be the source of the $4461 rumour. Jfitz427 might have taken the 4000 Euro I mentioned and calculated it back to dollars.
4000 Euro is the price I expect local suppliers to charge in Europe. It will probably be even more. This is of course not the price in the US which as mentioned before is $3995 without dies according to the MK7 site.
FWIW, my press of the first batch came with a set of Lee dies in .223R. ($30 value) and without hold down dies.
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7 hours ago, tanks said:
Out of curiosity I priced an Evo Pro and a Revolution. Compared to early summer the Evo Pro price is up about $700 and the Revolution price is about the same. So, I think by this price change they are pushing people to an automation solution.
I think you hit the nail on the head there Tanks!
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12 hours ago, mikamarj said:
Would be interesting to see the engineering diagram of the revised linkage.I'm interested as well, please post the data.
Much appreciated.
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To be clear, I don't think there is any conspiracy or covering up going on. I just have a hard time grasping the ''splash back'' theory. There is no mal intent but I do think they are barking up the wrong tree.
But fair enough, we will see what happens.
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It's a powder measure, not rocket science.
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Having played and experimented with this thing for quite some time now I think it is the intrinsic design which limits its preformance.
XL 650 - cases sometimes catching on resizing die
in Dillon Precision Reloading Equipment
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Hi Dazhi, does it take a lot of effort to push the pawl down with your finger?
Don't you have a spare spring to try?
What I find a bit puzzling however, is that the case in the vid also wants to jump out of the shell plate on the way down. At the moment the primer wheel indexing arm resets. Which makes me wonder, are the platform screws still tight?