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I might not be as stupid as I first thought (or maybe just half as stupid). My Dillon seating die (not a combo die) definitely de-flares the casemouth when I flare too much. You can hear the casemouth scraping against the sidewalls of the die before the bullet gets seated. e.g. Test cases flared to .3885 and .3930 got de-flared to .3825, which seemed like the maximum flare the die would accept. ddc's comment lit the little light bulb in my pea-brain. Since the bullets mic at .358 this shouldn't be a problem? So I flared to .3875, but the bullets still got shaved. Why? Well, I think the real issue is that the sizing die does its job too well! The sizing is so aggressive that it looks like the base and sides of the bullets are getting shaved when they're being seated. This, along with the seating die de-flaring the casemouth while simultaneously seating the bullet can't be a good thing. I'm using a MBF powder funnel, so the bullets are centred. I could try a different sizing and or seating die(s) but I think it's cheaper to just give up on the coated bullets and go back to plated bullets.
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Dillon XL750 Sizing Problem, Need A Pro Here
4n2t0 replied to damon32382's topic in Dillon Precision Reloading Equipment
I tried this, and it looks like the shellplate might not be square to the tool head. The platform screws are tight, but there is rotational slop in the bare platform if I grab it from the casefeed slide end and wiggle. All the slop disappears when the shellplate and shellplate bolt are installed, so maybe that slop is normal, but I don't have anything to compare. Dillon is sending two alignment tools (platform and casefeed???). They want me to dismantle the press, check the platform for cracks/wear, and then clean/reassemble/align. It might take a while since I'm in Canada, but I'll let you guys know how everything works out (or not). P.S. I've currently got a few K of all the calibres I shoot loaded, so I should be good until the first aid kit arrives.- 63 replies
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Thanks for the info everyone. I'm waiting for a trimmer to arrive so I can chop my specials to long colt. I'll start with the .38/.357 dies and see if they'll reach. I'll be loading a coated 158gr SWC. I'll update this thread sometime next week with my results (or lack thereof).
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Maybe I asked this in the wrong section? If the mods think it better, maybe this should get moved to one of the revolver sections?
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Sorry, the search on this site still seems to be broken. I couldn't even find the information querying the forum externally (site: www.brianenos.com long+colt). Will standard .38/.357 Dillon dies, on a Dillon 650, seat and crimp .38 long colt? Or will I need 9mm seat and crimp dies? I have both, but I'd prefer not to have to constantly swap dies around.
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4n2t0 replied to damon32382's topic in Dillon Precision Reloading Equipment
That must be it! I've been doing it right for decades, but started doing it wrong in the last 3 weeks. Problem solved!!! lol. Thanks to everyone who took the time to reply, I'll update the thread when I solve the problem.- 63 replies
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4n2t0 replied to damon32382's topic in Dillon Precision Reloading Equipment
This is a great idea! I would have never assumed that the platform itself might be canted. I'm "meticulously anal" and most would think that my 10+ year old 650 was still brand new, which helps reduce most user induced issues. I really know/understand this machine well. I might have to just start thinking about mechanical failure in the frame/ram/platform. I might also have to setup a camera and record myself reloading in an attempt to see exactly when or how the cases get tilted.- 63 replies
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Just double checked the bolts and they are good and tight.- 63 replies
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I'll need to independently verify the data, as I always do, but Joe4d laid the foundation for my insane quest to pump as much 296/H110 into a .357 case as humanly possible.
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No worries. I've already loaded and shot 17gr. It felt and performed identical to 16.7gr, which was to be expected. Still no visible signs of pressure. Next up, 17.7gr! Yahoo!
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4n2t0 replied to damon32382's topic in Dillon Precision Reloading Equipment
Thanks for the suggestions, I really do appreciate them all. I tried 1 pin, 2 pins, no pins but the problem persists. I think an alignment tool is in my future as well. I'll wait to hear back from Dillon and update this thread if/when a solution is found in the hopes that it might help someone else. I know many times I search the archives and find a solution to my issues on this forum.- 63 replies
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Both alignment pins are currently being utilized. I'll give it a shot, but since it seems that the case is already tilting towards the center of the press, I doubt allowing the toolhead to float farther away will help.- 63 replies
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I was reloading 9mm this weekend (147gr bullet over 3.65gr of WST, my favourite recipe) and I decided to take a few more pictures. Different toolhead, different dies (all Dillon), same tilting. Having the press lock up every 4-6 cases really sucks! Has anyone successfully integrated one of these on a 650? It would save me from poking the cases into the sizing die all the time.- 63 replies
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There's nothing wrong with the brass as far as I can tell/measure. Maybe I'll double check the toolhead next. Dillon contacted me to obtain more information, hopefully they can provide some advice that will cure the problems I'm having.- 63 replies
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Warning: I don't know $hit about 38 super or combo seat/crimp dies but isn't this what you're looking for? hXXps://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/102601 (replace xx with tt)
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The shellplate is clean and tight, no wobble. I might check the brass, I guess you never know. Weird.- 63 replies
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I know this is an older thread, but did you ever find a solution to this problem? Recently, my 650 started to act up on me, and I'm experiencing a similar problem. My cases tilt outward, and you can see how it affects the brass in the pictures below. I'm forced to constantly poke the cases into the sizing die, or they'll hit the edge of the die and/or get dented. This happens with all calibres, although it is much more noticeable with taller cases like .38/.357. My 650 is spotless. The sizing die is tightened down with a full shellplate and a case drawn up into it to help alignment. The camming pin has been adjusted to insert the case fully. The shellplate is clean and tight, no wobble. I've contacted Dillon, and I'm waiting to hear back from them, but aside from trying their realignment tool, which I don't own, I'm totally out of ideas.- 63 replies
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Awesome, thanks. It's still a little too chilly up north for that kinda stuff. Cheers!
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Oh man, now I got to load 17.7gr. C'mon guys, stop telling me this stuff before I blow my $hit to smithereens.
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Went to the range today. Everything went bag. No visible signs of dangerous pressure. SR primers worked well. The load was a little sooty, maybe because of the SRP? Maybe because that's just 296/H110? Anywho, I'm going to load 17gr, because, well, why the hell not! lol. I'll get chrono data in the summer and update this thread at that time. 25 yard target. S&W 66. For my skill level, that's pretty good. A little high but I'll adjust the sights.
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