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Just ordered 2k of 124 jhp. Bad news is they're closed till January 2nd! I'm going a little Cabin Fever crazy. Took awhile for the pistol to get here, powder should be here in about 4 days but all I have to load and run with is these plated bullets and some 124 jacketed round nose so they have an exposed base. I'm figuring the exposed base is a No-No for even couple hundred rounds?

Insghtful. Thank you. Seems consistent with what Aircooled had mentioned above with regards to open guns. This seems to describe exactly what I have on my Brazos so I will leave my OCD behind and let the technicals to the professional who built the gun! Now to get used to that dot Instead of sights.....

Thanks guys I really appreciate everybody's input. I didn't pay attention to the fact of how close pricing is between plated and jhp. Now to determine if I really need to use small rifle primers or perhaps just harder cup pistol primers which may allow for a nicer trigger pull.....

Cost is one of the reasons I was going to try to run with plated .These are what I happen to have on hand. Do you have recommendation for a good source at the best price for a jacketed bullet that performs? How about the Montana gold 124 cmj's? Any opinions on them? They seem to be reasonably priced when they're purchased 3,000 at a time. Thanks

Hello open shooters. First I'd like to thank everyone who has contributed to my newbie questions regarding open division. That being said here's another one. Has anyone had experience positive or negative with using plated bullets in .38 Super open major? I'm just beginning to formulate loads for my Brazos open pistol. Until my powder order arrives the only suitable thing I have in the arsenal is CFE pistol. I purchased some RMR 124 grain .355 plated and was following data I found, 7.2gr@ 1.238oal. It should be pushing them just under 1400 FPS . In a very brief range session I seemd to have some erratic flyers that messed up what would have been an otherwise respectable group. Again I'm getting used to the pistol but shooting offhand at 20 yards I would put three or four in a 2-2.5" group and then have one or two about 5" away. I worked up some loads with 115 grain HP jacketed and was able to produce consistent 5 shots inside 2" grouping with no erratic shots. I did not notice any odd marks on the cardboard or flower pedaling that might indicate the plating was peeling away. Again this was a very brief range session since my time has been limited to get going with this but any input or experience with plated or recommendations would be appreciated , thank you.

Thank you for the input gentlemen...

Oy? I wonder if there is an inexpensive option out there that comes apart as easily as is shown on the Lyman 2200

Aircooled,v Very sound advice and appreciated. I do tend to overanalyze everything and sometimes look to solve something that isn't wrong. Other than the addition of a wedge mainspring housing rather than the standard plastic which I know I like the feel of in a 2011 grip, I do plan to just shoot it. Once I gain experience with it I would decide if there are modifications I would want to do. All that being said however if you are willing to share your experience with a square edge stop versus a more angled I would be interested in listening for future reference,thanks

Hello I am new to open and just picked up a Brazos 5 in open gun in 38 Super. I have recently been experimenting on my limited gun with the EGW slide stop and a very small angle cut at the bottom of it and I believe overall I like the recoil sensation it provides. I was wondering if this fp stop would also be beneficial on an open gun keeping the slide locked slightly longer to allow more gases to work the comp before it started in it's reward motion. Sounds like you have experimented with this. Am I understanding correctly that you are saying the more customly found sterp angled back fp stop produces better results for you with an open gun?. Thanks

I'll look into that option thanks. What was difficult about getting it disassembled to the point where you could mount a bucket?

Yes I'm sure if it has a similar base and diameter most can be adapted.

Interesting. I thought the longer .38 Super cases would be the reason to give more clearance for ejection concerns.

Thanks for the link ,that looks like a nice setup. So does anyone have a Lyman 2200 Tumblr they want to sell LOL.... really

Thank you. Good link to an informative thread. At least I know others have had the same concern...

Thank you for the dose of "real". My OCD and over-analytical nature sometimes leads me to search a fix for a problem that doesn't exist LOL.

Gotcha. Thanks for the input. Does it mess up the draw when going to another pistol w/o an off center. Do you think it's necessary in a .38 Super for reliable ejection?

Alleluia! After some to-do I finally received my Brazos Custom SC open pistol today. Until I build some loads and get to the range I can only dry- fire (which I guess is smart before I launch a bunch of .38 Super downrange). I am new to open division. My question is regarding the mount. It holds the Cmore slide ride off center of the slide to the left about 1/4". It seems awkward to me and I am considering some non offset mount.. Original owner said it is set up like this from Brazos to help ensure no ejection issues. He is a retiring M class shooter so it obviously didn't negatively affect him. Is anyone experienced with this type of mount arrangenent or other options to suggest. Thanks.

Nice! Thank you for the input. Of the two mounts which one do you like better and why? Which one is lower to the slide? The Brazos slip looks like it sits back pretty far.

Does the Brazos Mount sit lower to the slide than the Atlas ? Also how do you like the rearward position of it compared to the Atlas?.Thanks

First the difference between 125 and 135 pf is rather insignificant and I believe we were discussing a larger margin than that. Perhaps the 10pf additional may be more desirable to some people by creating a different recoil impulse and tracking that suits their specific preference. Not sure why this is even argumentative but everybody has a threshold in which their performance starts to diminish after a certain amount of didturbing recoil type or other discomfort is introduced repetitively. This is one of the reasons why Bob Vogel claims after a training session of more than 250 to 300 rounds he has to go and do at least twice that in dry fire because he starts to pull off Target. . He prefers a 147 grain load because of the soft recoil impulse while shooting production with his Glock 34. He shoots at 132 pf. Doug Koenig prefers the opposite recoil sensation and he has his own 90 grain loads that provide a sharp quick snappy recoil. He claims it keeps it more consistent when he is working his other disciplines such as the Bianchi cup etc. his pf is about 131.Max Michel likes the 147 grain loads put out by Sig. for carry optics. Yes he is sponsored by them but he also helped develop the loads to make about a 132 pf. Soft and trackable as he describes it. Hey I guess Phil Strader also likes it too since that's what he's running for production. The consistency I see is that each one has a preffered recoil impulse that they strive for and none of them seem to go not much excess of the minimum PF requirement. Like I mentioned in my previous post to each their own. If you're comfortable with 9mm +P+ in your gun is safe to handle it go for it. But to say recoil characteristics don't influence match performance results ....well maybe it's just that the top shooters have noticed that the most.

Good to hear I just ordered one. I was looking at the Brazos slipshot Mount. How do you like it? I have a 5 inch barrel with 4 popple holes. I'm hoping it sits it back far enough so the blast shield isn't needed. It's a Brazos built gun so....

Isn't the DPP listed as a 2.5moa dot? They have a big following on open rigs. I'm thinking if the dot on the Romeo Is extremely bright ,crisp and round it may actually looked to be bigger than what I know as a traditional 3 moa. I just don't want to be looking forward on quick close target arrangements.

What failed on it?

Sweet looking set up! The 3 moa isn't too small?

Is anyone running one of these on their open gun or maybe in carry optics? Is the footprint compatible with another mrd out there? Got some very insightful feedback on the Romeo 1 but it was brought to my attention that Romeo 3 could be a strong candidate also.