I have the load master with the discs. I have to say that the throws are very consistent. The only downside is that you have to make changes in powder in .2gr increments unless you customize the discs, I also had inconsistencies in my oal after awhile. I am talking about differences of .020 which is not acceptable. I reset my dies and tried numerous fixes. I finally changed my tumbling media and added more nufinish. (I add nufinish at every tumble now) which had not been changed in a year. I tumbled the sizing die and cleaned it with alcohol. This helped a lot. I also picked up a tin of redding resizing wax. When I am loading my cases, I rub my finger through the tin and then rub my finger against my thumb before I load the cases. My oal's are now no more than .002 variance with a very rare .005. The machine runs so much smother now as well. I guess you have to ask yourself, do you want to spend $600-$700 on a 650 or would you prefer to spend that money on primers, powders, and bullets. It is all in what you can afford. I would love to try out a Dillon 650 but I just can't justify the expense when my $225 Loadmaster is pumping out a consistent quality product.