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  1. Now the next question, 180 or 165? ;)

    180. Factory Winchester white box 165 is very harsh in my 35. 180 grain Blazer Brass runs swell and is more of a push without the uncomfortable vibrations. I was ready to burn the thing with 165. Switch to 180 and take a video lesson on grip and instantly I'm shooting 10 times better, enough to render my 3-gun pistol setup obsolete much to the dismay of my bank account.

  2. I have had an 18" JP. I have also had a Daniel defense, and a 16" mid length bcm. The JP is obviously the nicest but it is rather heavy and the hand guard is larger than it looks. The DD is nice, worst part is that many come with a mil spec trigger which sucks more than usual. This one looks like it comes with an SSA which is what I run and it is fine. Personally I like stainless barrels though and 16" is a good compromise in terms of size, plus it is the shortest legal length without having to pin your compensator so I like them. On the Ambush, keep in mind that it has a 1:7 twist which may not work the best with lighter bullets. Those are for stabilizing heavier ones, 69-77 grains.

  3. One time I went snowboarding in Colorado. There were several of us driving down the mountain at Keystone in a rental minivan. We were talking about the scenery or something and for some reason I thought it would be funny to tell my friend who was driving that he should do a donut in this parking lot so that we could get a panoramic view. Well, he didn't exactly do what I had in mind. He starts barreling down the road then locks up the emergency brake when we get to an overpass. Well, it was a solid sheet of ice. We spin around totally and do a 360 about 5 1/2 times. When we finally stopped we were literally 3 feet from going over a cliff, backwards.

  4. How about when you are home alone and bored out of your mind late at night and are practicing mag changes with multiple guns but with empty mags, along with dry firing a bunch for about two hours and get into the "it's empty" mindset. You go to put everything up, don't think much about the fact that the mag that you keep in the FNX-40 for HD purposes is loaded, then at the last minute start playing with the takedown lever because it's new and just so damn interesting that you can just pull the slide back, flip a switch, and the thing falls apart. So you chamber a round without realizing it, go to let the hammer down with your thumb instead of using the decocker, but it slips. Ideally it wouldn't matter, but, well... BAM. A round through a few layers of bedding, a mattress, box spring, two layers of drywall, and into a door jamb, in the house that you just finished building and just moved in to.

  5. When shooting a scoped rifle for the first time get to close to scope. Kept scar, threw away skin that scope decided to remove but not eat.

    Or better yet, don't do this then play hockey on the same day. It wasn't my first time but I was on the verge of hypothermia without realizing it and wasn't thinking too well. When I got an adrenaline rush from seeing a buck I started shaking violently. I shot too quickly and split my forehead open about 1/4 or 3/8" with the scope. I proceed to literally jump out of the stand from 10 feet up, and due to the cold I must have busted several capillaries, as my feet burned very badly for some reason. Thought I was sweating even, so I wiped my brow and noticed blood all over my hands. Finally figured it out and got the bleeding to stop, everything was good. But then I play hockey that night with no helmet on. The puck shot straight up in the air about 15 feet and me and this other guy started skating right towards it while looking up and not seeing each other. We head butted and it clotheslined the two of us. I open my eyes and all I could see was red. It had split my eyebrow open from where the rifle started the cut, and I mean all the way open. It was gaping about half an inch top to bottom and was split from one end to the other, had to have 17 stitches. Luckily my brow hides it so nobody knows unless I tell them.

  6. Habenero pizza.

    At work.

    My station crew made one nice flatbread pizza.

    Topped with 30 minced (not cooked, raw) habenero peppers.

    Hell on earth followed.

    Once I went in a biking/camping trip in Frisco Colorado with a friend. We went to BackCountry Brewery, had a bunch of beer, and their duck and jalapeno pizza. It was summertime yet it was 38 degrees at night so we had to keep the tent closed up. It was the stinkiest tent in all of history.

  7. Do you have your weak hand index finger on the front of the trigger guard? It's been my experience that the end result is the muzzle dipping on the second shot.

    No, I don't do that.

    What's interesting is that it's kind of in slow motion so it's probably me. I just don't know what to do about it. The dipping down isn't a violent dip at the same speed that it flipped back up as nor does it actually point downwards, so I actually misstated the title of this thread. It's only pointing LOW, not down. It snaps back quickly, snaps forward quickly, immediately followed by a relatively slow dip that pulls the entire gun down along with my arms as if there's was a big puff of wind blowing down on it. I don't know what I'm doing that would cause this. I actually have the snapping somewhat under control in which I am happy about but I never expected for it to do this. I figure either the forward motion of the slide is causing it to dip, but since my wrists are locked, it's transferring that energy to my arms, or I'm actually fighting the recoil and pushing forward when it snaps back, causing my arms to dip after it snaps back in place.

  8. On Friday I ripped through about 100 rounds with my G35 only concentrating on improving my grip. Strangely enough I think I got a little better. However I've noticed that if I only look to see what the gun is doing after the shot instead of concentrating on the target, I notice that I shoot, it flips back, snaps back like it ought to, but then it keeps going a bit and dips down below the target. Is this normal? Is this a technique thing or something that slide lightening is supposed to help?

  9. I've always considered gamers to be guys like larrys1911 who will buy every gizzy and book and try ever trick to win, but will stay within the rulebook. In larry's case he's mighty serious about staying honest but in the case of others, when you run the edge sometimes you go over it some, and end up cheating. Which is probably why the term gamer has a vague definition to some.

    In the 3-gun world I've always taken "gamers" to be a slang reference to guys who play first-person shooter games on the PC, playstation, or X-box. If you do that a lot, you're universally considered to be a gamer. Some of these sports are more or less just like running stationary courses like "the pit" in Call of Duty 2 in real life so I don't think it's a stretch to use the term in this manner. I know plenty of video game geeks who lovingly consider themselves and everybody else gamers so it's the first thing I think of.
    When I hear somebody use the term "gaming", I think it means "gaming the system", doing what you are saying. Example being just throwing a round in the general direction of a long rifle target, knowing you’ll miss and get a failure to neutralize penalty, but you avoided a failure to engage penalty, and your speed of doing this is less than what you would have spent actually trying to hit the thing, so you actually came out ahead. It's not in the spirit of the meet yet it's not illegal.
  10. As a former cyclist who had to quit and start shooting due to a back injury, I feel that there is an education opportunity here.

    Do you know what we hate? About getting squished every 30 seconds. Do you know the best way how to make that happen? Ride by yourself or in single file on the edge of the road.

    Here's what happens. You ride on the side of the road and people will barely get over into the other lane, often missing you by not very much at all. If you are going at a decent clip, like well over 20 mph, there is quite a bit of wind noise and you don't even hear those cars until they're right next to you. It sometimes scares the bejeezus out of you, not to mention that many even feel the need to honk.

    That's not even the worst part though. Usually these geniuses who barely blow by your side don't even look to see if there is anything coming the other way, much less if there is anything big coming. So, when they get halfway by you then realize that they're about to have a head-on collision, guess who loses? The cyclist, that's who. They will box you in by scooting over towards you to make room for the other vehicle. I've literally been riding on the very edge of a narrow two lane road with a coal truck right beside me, a ditch on the other, while meeting another coal truck. It's not pleasant.

    Here's the deal though. When you ride in the middle of the lane, especially with multiple riders, it makes people pass you as if you are a vehicle, which, you are. If it's not safe to fully get into the other lane and pass a full sized car in the situation that you are in, then it's not safe to pass a cyclist. Period. As crazy as it sounds, riding this way forces people to adhere to this MUCH better.

    So no, they're not trying to make you mad. They're trying to get home in one piece.

    What does make me mad about some cyclists though, is that some less experienced folks such as recreational riders around town, think they can adhere to some sort of mixture of traffic rules. Are they a vehicle? Are they a pedestrian? They're both! They ride on the sidewalk then zoom out into traffic. They run through stop lights, ride in the emergency lane, etc. Either act like a vehicle or stay off the road.

  11. If ever there was a time for a friggin lawyer this would be it. Those devious souls will have some way to hide the assets from the state.

    My wife is actually an attorney but she doesn't specialize in being evil. :)

    This nursing home crap... jeez... if you're broke, it's free. If you have anything at all, it costs out the ass. Makes no sense.

    Talked with my dad tonight, at this point we're concentrating on farming it again, and keeping all of the proceeds from the conservation resource program due to mowing it ourselves. That may be as much as we could ever hope for. If it really is closer to $200 an acre like Bryan mentioned then we're golden. If we could farm about 250 acres at $180 that would pay for her entire stay for a year, not considering taxes of course. I didn't think land was being leased for anywhere near that much.

  12. I think it takes a fair amount of time to design, build, and administrate stages. For $1600 per month gross profit, you could probably get a part time job, put the same hours into it, make about as much money, and not have any of the liability.

    In this part of Kentucky, leased tillable acres is closer to $200/acre. I would think the market in western ky would bear similar prices.

    It probably does take longer than I could ever imagine, and you would know that as well as anybody. Obviously having some major tax write-offs and a closer place to shoot is a big part of my curiosity.

    My dad keeps saying $100 an acre is on the very low side of things but I haven't seen it in my immediate area. My own land is surrounded by 300 acres and while I just use my place as a personal game reserve, $100 is what they are getting. Only last year they were getting about half that. Most people that I know around west Paducah share crop and take 25% of the total sale and I don't have firm figures to go on. One year, one neighbor with 30 acres sharecropped with beans and got $4,000 which is $133 an acre but another year there was a drought and I'm not sure he got half that.

  13. Just to be curious is the land laid out correctly? Safe for shooting or would you have to do some excavating? That could be a hidden charge. We went thru the same thing with my grandmother. Long story short everything was liquidated all money paid nursing home bills to it ran out. We should have been more proactive but you live and learn. Upside is she is well taken care of with the best care.

    It's naturally seemingly very suitable, otherwise I wouldn't even ask. Several places have a nice open field with a wide and steep hill at the end where you could shoot into it and/or hundreds of yards of dense woods before you hit another property line. I saw nothing in Thunder Valley at Rockcastle that was more suitable in terms of natural terrain.

    Yeah the nursing home situation sucks. My parents should have been even more proactive than they were. Lots of workarounds exist in Kentucky. I'm doing what I can but it's all after the fact. Just need to save the farm at this point. My dad is negotiating with some farmers about growing crops and he is buying a bigger tractor and a batwing bush hog for the rest. It's on the conservation program but by the time you pay somebody else to bush hog, it eats up all your profits.

  14. Steel targets, target stands, timers, targets, tablets for scoring, plasters, clays, props, porta jons, advertising, liability insurance...

    It will take you a long time to get in the black at 1600 a match.

    I was assuming about $6,000 for steel targets at first, hopefully less. I've seen multiple fun and fairly long stages be set up with about 16 5" steels and stands plus 3-4 longer distance targets. That's about $45 each with stands, brand new retail, from MGM. Basically $720 per stage for those. Flashers are $427, poppers $257. Maybe $1,500-$2,000 per stage, but buying in bulk from a different company and not having real long stages and using paper as much as possible may be significantly less. I already have multiple old cars to use as props plus not to mention the land, tractors, and bush hogs. Yeah that's a lot but if it's a one time cost that can be recouped then it's not a problem.

    I don't know about the rest of the shopping list. Clays/paper are pretty cheap, and free internet based advertising goes a long ways nowadays. Good timers are what, $150 each retail. I already have multiple tablets but I've seen this done with a pencil and piece of paper then entered into one laptop.

    Porta-johns... never considered that. Crap. Literally. :) And if they're not moved they'd probably get destroyed by trespassers wouldn't they.

    Biggest question is insurance. That alone may make this the silliest endeavor of all time.

  15. Alternate income? You are 1.5 hours away. So, you are talking about weekends, right?

    I'm potentially talking about a one weekend match per month club level match similar to like what Gateway 3-gun does. They do one day meets that costs $40. In June they had 42 people. This last Rockcastle club meet had 40 people as well so I'm assuming that's halfway normal attendance for a club meet. Rockcastle only charged $20 but they could get away with more. At $40, that's $1,600 in monthly revenue at those numbers, which may be feasible for this purpose if you already owned some appropriate land, which we do.

    What I do not know is how much insurance costs, if insurance is even available for one day meets instead of something that's open every day and has meets every weekend, what RO's expect for their services, if there are weird zoning considerations, things like that.

    I realize it sounds hair brained but only about half of it is farmable. At $100 an acre like our neighbor is getting, that would pay for half of her nursing home bills. Just trying to see if there's anything that could help out with the rest.

  16. So basically my grandmother owns 450 acres of rolling Kentucky land with tall fescue that gets bush hogged twice a year, natural berms, lots of woods, and some VERY long fields, which looks very similar to Thunder Valley at Rockcastle. And, she is very sick due to a bad stroke, in the nursing home and paying for everything out of pocket. She’s doing ok for now but if it stretches out into a long term situation, $3,800 a month may put the farm at risk. It’s in a trust but the timing wasn’t exactly perfect based on Kentucky law. If you stay in a nursing home on the states dime, you can only have like $200 to your name, unless you sign over everything 5 years prior, otherwise they can come after personal property. Just kind of a questionable thing.

    Even though it’s in a trust, I’m named as the guy who calls all the shots for the farm in the future and am looking for alternative ways to put it to work and help with some of her bills. Worst case we’ll have somebody farm it but they did that before and didn’t like it all that much, plus much of it isn’t suitable for farming.

    So, my question is, for future reference, are 3-gun “benefit” meets viable at all? I’m guessing no but some of these meets have some serious money being passed around so I have to ask.

    I’m not hung up on this, I’ve been researching lots of things… grain farming, off-road trail runs, 3-d archery shoots, guided hunts, tilapia farming, enduro / hare scrambles, 3-gun… not sure what the best fit is. The most I have researched is 3-d archery, trail runs, and guided hunts. I have a pretty good idea about those and helped organize a trail race at a friends farm, got a first hand look at all the accounting. I know how to make the semi-guided hunts work and have been exposed to it quite a bit but it attracts some bad people who act like they own your place and therefore my grandmother doesn't agree with it. I think I kind of know how to make a 3-d archery range work and have talked to several people in the ASA about course design and insurance, but that's usually a situation where you have people coming in all the time, and being 1.5 hours away, I just can't maintain the place and prevent target theft to that degree. Might work on my own farm but not hers.

    Anyway, any ideas?

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