MetropolisLake
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In 3-gun from what I can tell you often have cardboard torso targets in which you really only need one good hit in the A zone. Yet I see guys often always double tapping at them. I'm assuming that at a distance you can't really tell where it hit and they're doing it just in case. Is this the case or do I have it all wrong?
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I nearly always make both monthly matches. Even with marching band and tennis.
That makes it sound local. I have to drive 3 hours to the closest place and get a hotel.
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I'll be there, getting stomped I'm sure.
First match. I'm a 3-gun virgin. Started packing yesterday due to being excited. Am a little nervous about hitting itty bitty long range pistol targets and fumbling shotgun reloads but hopefully the rest won't be too bad. -
Hell I didn't think about the FNH team.
http://www.fnhusa.com/l/about/team-fnh-usa/
Most of those guys are using an FNS, same thing but with an internal striker. Mark Wills is using an FNX-40 and Joe Satterfield has an FNX-9. I don't feel quite so dumb now.
46 seconds.
http://3gunnation.com/news/details/artmid/509/articleid/51662/2012-3-gun-nation-championship
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Pride only hurts, it never helps.
I'm just disappointed that nobody recognized my Pulp Fiction reference. LOL.
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Obviously the real answer is train so that you are able to make whatever kind of shots will be required of you. To plan to fail which is what you are doing when you want a plan for missing targets is counter productive
Not planning to fail, it's just that I've never shot over 225 yards before. RockCastle has had targets at twice that range and I'm not sure how to hit them other than to just hope the BDC markings on the scope are halfway accurate.
What would be counterproductive is if I just sat there flinging lead for 30 seconds, and even if I did finally hit it, I could have just taken one pot shot on the move and got a 20 second "failure to neutralize" penalty. That's 10 seconds in the hole, just to satisfy my own pride. Pride only hurts, it never helps.
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Isn't 1/4 mile beyond the max distance for pistol targets in USPSA, or is this a 3 gun question?
3-gun. Most people only go up to 350 yards with pistol so I thought it was obvious.
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So you shoot at this pesky little target 1/4 mile away but miss. And you miss the second shot. And the third. At what point do you throw in the towel and opt to take the penalty?
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I don't shoot enough to be able to do it all. Have about decided that Glocks aren't for me, mostly because I like 1911's and it messes me up switching back and forth. The grip angle, safety, and trigger messes me up, grip angle more than anything. If Glocks had a 1911 grip angle I would like them much more.
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Dry fire...You will get used to it.
Shoot a 5 shot group, dry fire 50 times on the same target, then shoot another 5 shot group. If you do not see any improvment in your group you have other issues than need attention.
I dry fired a bunch yesterday and this morning, then shot 10 times this morning after that. Groups were better even when sitting and kneeling vs. on a makeshift bench like this weekend. Vertically it is usually pretty close. I keep pulling them to the right though. Plan to do that the next 3 days... deer season starts Saturday.
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2013 BRM3G Stage 8 started with rifle on 6 targets, had to clear and sling on the clock, transition to shotgun, then pistol, climb onto a roof then unsling to engage more rifle targets. Rifle could be slung at start, but had to be cleared before transition to shotgun, then pistol, and back to rifle. Other stages had rifle already slung before start signal. Need to carry all you need to complete the stage from the start signal.
So I guess if it's a pretty full mag you keep it. What about the round in the chamber, do you just dump it or do people literally spend the time to pick it up and shove the dusty/muddy thing back in the mag? Or is that required?
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All the matches I've done so far require the slung rifle to be completely empty: empty chamber, empty magwell.
Is this from the start or after shooting? If the latter, do you literally stop and refill your belt, or do you just drop the mag and jack the live round out onto the ground and keep on trucking?
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I'm not exactly an excellent rifleman so forgive the newbie question but I don't know what to do about my trigger. In most people's eyes it would be excellent but I am not used to it at all. All my other guns have a little give to it so I feel that I can time when the thing goes off better. This new Winchester 70 though breaks like an icicle, zero creep on it. You just squeeze and it eventually goes off without any perceivable movement. I don't have a good feel as to when that will happen, which kills my accuracy at longer distances. I am much more accurate with my AR and Geiselle trigger with a 1-4 MTAC than I am with my Win 70 with a Zeiss 3x9. I don't know what to do about it. Dry firing I suppose, or go broke shooting it at $1 a shot, but otherwise I don't know. I also don't know if these icicle triggers are the norm with nicer precision or hunting rifles either. I have an older Winchester 70 in 30-06 that I have shot for 23 years now, but it does not feel the same as this new one in 308 so I'm much more accurate on the old one as well, even with a crappy old fixed 3x Bushnell scope. Any ideas?
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Let's have an honest conversation. This sport costs a decent amount of money and takes even more time if you wanna be a B class shooter or better. Practice is a must, 15 to 60 minutes every day.
I have no desire to play with guns for an hour a day even if I had no family.
I've come to the conclusion that a few 1-day club meets a year is all I can handle. "Club" sounds local but unfortunately that still requires a minimum of 6 hours round trip and an overnight stay. Round counts are lower so affordability is higher. My goal is a club meet at St. Louis or RockCastle once every month or two. Probably will be a good compromise between being gone all the time, and not being able to do it at all.
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On some 3-gun stages you have to use a rifle sling. I read one place where it specifically says you have to sling it to the strong side. Is specifying this normal? Is there a particular position, or is dangling from your neck and shoulder on a sling the only thing that is usually required? I have a bad back and if I'm scouting on my land I change positions to minimize the pain so I'm used to both.
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I keep envisioning a Pelican but with a small wooden frame on one end with 10" inflatable tires. Basically turning your case into a hand truck. As far as that goes, you could just about just bolt a small piece of plywood to the bottom on one end and bolt wheels on top of that. You could just pull it with the handle on the other end of the case, and keep ammo in a small backpack.
http://www.harborfreight.com/10-inch-pneumatic-swivel-caster-38944.html
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Also a little tip on the thrown clays and charcoal... use your strong/trigger hand! You get more height and control, can use it as a counter balance, plus your gun is already in position to where you can shoulder it quickly. Don't toss it underhand either, reach back and sling them from behind like a discus. Look up Patrick Flanigan on youtube and watch how he does it, it's the most efficient. I do this just for the hell of it, never expected it to be in a competition. Two is easy with little practice. Three is more sketchy, you have to have your throw down pretty good.
What's interesting is if you do the charcoal thing, except use golf balls.
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Did I hate the trap skeet and sporting clays??? Yep!
To be honest I would be kind of surprised if there was a shotgun championship without flying clays. Skeet and especially trap is about the most fundamental shotgun skill there is. If somebody can't do halfway well at trap, they are not a good shotgunner.
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Is there still snow at the resorts that time of year?
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Can't speak for 3-gunning but I imagine it would matter if it was a woods walk or not. If so, I used to be a good trail runner and can say that the higher end Asics trail runners are great. The lower end ones like the Asics Gel Venture don't have soles that last. Several other brands like Merrill have very stiff soles that never seem to break in. The more expensive Asics with gel are just right especially if you need a stability shoe. They prevent your foot from rolling sideways if you hit a root or rock funny. Which, is a big concern, as during the shotgun competition earlier this year, somebody broke their ankle or snapped a ligament or something at RockCastle.
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The biggest thing I'm not comfortable with at this point is the scope. I don't know how in the hell I'm going to hit stuff at 300-500 yards with a 1-4x scope with a big red dot on it. I'll see how it goes though. Worst case I'll sell it and get something nicer next year. These MTAC's are on eBay for like $318 or something. Couldn't justify spending more before I knew what I was doing. Plus I'll mostly be competing in St. Louis assuming I stay in it, and the longest shot they've ever had was like 140 yards from what I can tell.
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Then I would STRONGLY suggest not buying a thing besides match fees and more ammo until you shoot a bunch of 3 gun. then you can see other people's stuff, decide what you like and go from there. I tried to modify my stuff as I went, and the only original parts on my AR are the pins, I think. otherwise, go have fun and see what works for you
The only thing I've bought specific for gearing up for 3-gun is my belt setup, the scope, and a few extra pistol mags. I had everything else for no good reason other than I'm a country boy with some land.
I figure if I stay in it, I'll sell the glock and get a 2011, but this should be good for now, I like all these guns. If I feel the need for a different AR, I've got a Seekins lower, could build a 3-gun specific upper for it. This one works much better than most factory tactical style builds though and I'm used to it, so whatever. I will probably see the need for an adjustable gas block soon but the Spikes buffer softened up the recoil quite a bit. I already have a JP silent captured spring buffer thingy. Grabbing one of their gas blocks and a lightweight BCG would probably be awesome but I don't feel the need for now.
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only thing I see right off is an extension tube for the shotgun, because starting 9+1 means you have 5 fewer shells to stuff in after the buzzer and most strings seem set up for 8-9 and then a reload.
FN's come factory with 8+1. I should already be set for now in this regard. Could add a cap in the future if necessary but it should be ok for now.
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Will 16 rounds of shotgun on your belt be enough?
Hell if I know. I'm asking you guys.
If I need more for now then I'm going to have to throw them in a skeet bag or in my pocket or something. I figure in the future if I stay in this I'll get a +2 vest.
Rockcastle 3 Gun, November 24
in Multi-Gun, Rifle & Shotgun Match Announcements
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What's the smallest and furthest away pistol target we should expect in a match like this?