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Dan, when you responded to this thread, I received 4 seperate notifications about your response. That's a first.
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Look at this parts list and I believe that he is talking about the assembly that is made up of parts: 12, 13 and 14.
http://www.topglock.com/info/partgraphic.htm
If you look at the part numbers here for a G17 vs. a G22 the part numbers are different: http://www.topglock.com/catalog/stockparts.htm
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Eric, I couldn't agree with you more. AYE is the short answer.
Rick
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L Patterson, look at the new posters that you are suppose to post on the walls when you teach basic pistol. You will see that crossing your thumbs is ONE of the two techniques that are taught as acceptable. I shot my revolvers this way. The two thumbs forward is also on that same poster that the NRA provides.
From a relatively new NRA instructor
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Cut and paste from the current rulebook (number 7 applies):
"Shooter Responsibilities.
1. ALWAYS follow the four laws of gun safety.
2. ALWAYS be conscious of muzzle direction.
3. Refrain from having finger in the trigger guard when not actually engaging targets.
4. Exhibit safe gun handling at all times.
5. Follow the rules in this book and any match-specific or range-specific rules.
6. Acquire and use IDPA legal equipment.
7. Obtain a valid classification and maintain it by shooting the classifier at least once every twelve (12) months (except master class shooters).
8. Assist in taping targets and picking up brass.
9. Be ready to shoot when called to the line (i.e., have appropriate ammo, concealment garment, etc.).
10. Be courteous and respectful to the match officials and other shooters.
11. In addition, have fun, socialize, learn and improve your gun handling and shooting skills.
NOTE: Contestants may only shoot one IDPA match as a non-IDPA member. Competitors wishing to shoot additional matches must become IDPA members. Membership forms are available by writing or phoning HQ or on the internet at the IDPA web site (www.idpa.com). Membership forms are also usually available from any IDPA MD or IDPA club. When completing a membership application, make sure to sign the application, the waiver and have a witness sign the waiver. Otherwise, HQ will return the application to you for completion.
New memberships may also be processed through the local club; however, renewal of membership must be handled directly by HQ."
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Hello Los, welcome to the board. In a case like yours you need to try different eye dominance tests besides the one that you originally posted.
Eye dominance has different levels for different people. Some are very strongly one or the other. Some people have such a minor dominance difference that the dominant can actually change depending on circumstances.
Have someone help you with this. Both eyes open, point tip of index finger on right hand at object across the street from where you are. You want an object with some distance from you since this works better than something that is close. With both eyes still open have your assistance cover your left eye. Did the relationship between the tip of the finger and the object change? If yes, you are left eye dominant, if no, you are right eye dominant.
Hope that this helps.
Rick
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I thought Bud's carried these but they are current sold out and they had the best prices. I thought they were about $1200. Here is a link for a little more money: http://www.impactguns.com/store/SS-18982.html.
Since this gun can't be that old $900 sounds like a damn good deal to me. Someone else who actually owns one will probably pipe up soon enough and give you the straight scoop. You could also look at the USPSA classified adds and the adds on this forum for a used STI Edge. The Jarrett model does look like a nice offering, have fun shopping.
Rick
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One more link for you Steve: http://www.mobilityguru.com/popular_produc...ries/notebooks/
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damn quick! One time and one time only, I hit a .59. I can't duplicate it. When things are going well and after I warm up, I get in the .7s now for a similar distance and what Brian calls a type one focus - just index the gun and pull the trigger. My 10 yard A zone hits are almost twice that speed at 1.3 after warming up. Still fun to do and impress your friends.
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I've been shopping for a notebook for my son. Here is one site that I have found helpful as far as research goes:
http://reviews.cnet.com/Notebooks/2001-312...?tag=cnetfd.dir
Good luck in the search,
Rick
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posting pictures of groups are always interesting. You almost need to know time frame and style with those not just distance. It would be one thing to shoot those all from the holster at less than 1.5 seconds per draw at 10 yards and another to do it all under 1.0 and another if there was no time factor and they were all slow fire. Still another if they were all two shot doubles and the splits were .4 or .3 or .2.
With groups and testing the accuracy of a new gun I always like to do some kind of standard test. 25 yards, 5 shot group off of sand bags with no time limit give me a better understanding of what the gun can do. I also like to do this same test at 50 yards. Not just one group either. If I am ambitious, 5, 5 shot groups and average the group size measured center of the hole to center of the farthest hole with a dial caliper. Keep these numbers in your shooter's log for future reference along with the exact load that they were shot with.
The Jarrett Para seems like a very nice weapon at a great price point compared to some other alternatives. I read the recent USPSA article with some interest. I'm probably not going to own a $2500 limited gun any time soon, but this Para could be in the realm of reality. Looks like a very nice package. Congrats on a good buy and have fun experimenting with the new acquisition.
Rick
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Do you have a link Dale?
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My name is Rick Ingle. I didn't write the rules.
George, you probably know the rules better than I. I could be wrong. Could you please direct me to something in the rule book that says that you can remove the safety if another gun like it without that option is manufactured? I am open to any other info that you have.
Again, my specific example was for IDPA not USPSA. Maybe I am just a simple guy but if you try to circumvent the rules I don't know what else to call it besides cheating.
Like I said before, if you don't see a problem with that then I won't be able to convince you otherwise.
If there is something in the rules to allow you to disable a safety because another model doesn't have it, I will be more than willing to accept that, please just point me in the right direction. Thanks,
Rick Ingle
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You're probably right, I'm missing the point that the only one that would know that you are cheating is you. If you don't see that as an issue then nothing that I will say is going to change your mind.
I've been called a gamer many times, I just happen to believe in playing by the rules no matter what I personally think of them.
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On Matt Burkett's "how to train" DVD he talks about something that has some bearing on this conversation. One instead of trying to burn a hole in the target the whole time from load and make ready, he focuses on the target stand at load and make ready. When the "Are you ready comand is given he shifts his focus to the exact spot on the target. Some times our focus can't be held for so long. By building in a "down time" by looking at the target stand and then having a trigger for your focus (Are you ready?) and flipping the switch can help your attention span and your reaction time.
I do the drill that XRE talks about. I prep the trigger and wait for the beginning of the beep. Many times I will do this drill combined with my reload drill. Beep, fire first shot, reload then fire second shot. I can get my reaction time to the beep and my reload speed from shot to shot. While doing this drill I vary the distances. An A zone shot, reload and then another A zone shot is different at 4 yards than 10. I keep these numbers in a shooting log as well.
Good luck on your training.
Rick
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They are only available to LEO so if you aren't a cop ...
Yes, you can lie if you want and say you bought it from a LEO.
I don't have to lie about anything. If S&W won't sell me a gun to order, I know some cops.
From the IDPA rulebook, cut and pasted:
"1. Non-IDPA-Legal Modifications for ALL Divisions
The following modifications are NOT ALLOWED IN ANY DIVISION unless otherwise specifically mentioned.
A. Compensators of any type including hybrid or ported barrels.
B. Add-on weights for a competitive advantage (this includes, but is not limited to, weighted magazines, tungsten guide rods, brass magazine wells, weighted grips).
C. Heavy and/or cone style barrels without a barrel bushing.
D. Sights of non-standard configuration (i.e. Ghost rings, Bo-Mar rib, etc.).
E. Disconnection or disabling of any safety device on any gun.
F. Lights mounted on guns."
Item E speaks to this. Don't confuse USPSA rules with IDPA rules. Don't shoot the messanger, I was just trying to avoid a problem for you in competition. I personally don't like magazine disconnects either and personally am not interested in any firearm that has them. No one says that you have to shoot IDPA. Just for your info that's all.
Rick
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Travis, that GSI unit looks COOL. I bet it is much more than $139 though.
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If you remove the mag disconnect it will not be IDPA compliant if that matters to you.I talked to my IDPA AC about that. He says that if it is offered by the factory without magazine disconnector, that it is OK to shoot in IDPA. I figure if I order one without disconnector and I take delivery of it that way, I am not going to ask whether S&W left it out or if it is in the dealer's trashcan.
They are only available to LEO so if you aren't a cop ...
Yes, you can lie if you want and say you bought it from a LEO.
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Has anyone seen one of these?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Streamlight-TLR-2-Ligh...1QQcmdZViewItem
The price is less than the M6X and the battery life is way longer even though not quite as bright as the X series.
A little off topic but has anyone seen any filters that I can put on these lights? I want a red lense. Some local coyotes and I have to meet up one of these nights. I currently have a Insight M3X and like the light, just want a red filter for that unit.
The Lasermax internal units I have heard break and can cause a pistol malfunction. The Crimson trace for the Glock changes the grip angle and am not interested in that since I shoot my Glock so much I don't want the grip angle changed. I thought a light with a laser might be a nice alternative for a Glock.
Thanks for the input in advance.
Rick
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John, that's "moot" not "mute." Mute means incapable of speech. <didactic learning mode off>
The mag disconnector is an LE-only option to remove. The mechanism is simple, isn't part of the trigger linkage, and should be easy to remove. However, since it has no deleterious effect on trigger pull, I'll probably just leave mine in.
If you remove the mag disconnect it will not be IDPA compliant if that matters to you.
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Oh, I dunno. I would love to find a bottle of scotch as old as my wife. Errr...should I say as "young" as my wife. Yeah, that's it.
Drinking scotch that is (age deleted) years old doesn't make me a perv. But it would make me poor.
I can't afford the old scotch or the young girls. -
If your Scotch is older than your girlfriend you are a perv.
Life is too short for cheap alcohol.
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The photos didn't copy over so that is why the text looks funny in a couple of spots. The real issue is that one holster might be legal on one body type and not legal on another body type as far as measurements go. It is hard to say that a particular holster is legal, it is about the individual shooter and which specific gun. The following is cut and paste from the rule book:
"C. Holsters.
Effective April 15, 2005, the IDPA “Approved Holster List” is no longer in effect and holsters previously listed are NOT necessarily approved for IDPA competition.
The two primary reasons for this are:
1. Some holster companies have constantly changed the specifications of some holsters and several holsters originally approved have been changed into non-approved configurations.
2. In most cases, MDs and SOs do not have holster catalogs or samples and are rarely “holster experts.” Therefore it makes enforcement of an approved holster list very difficult.
A legal IDPA holster MUST fall within one of the following four categories AND meet all criteria following.
1. Categories of Concealed Carry Holsters
A. Inside the Waistband (IWB) Style.
IWB on body IWB front IWB back
This design carries the handgun inside the pants and belt and typically has a hook or loop that attaches to the belt on the outside of the holster. This design carries the handgun the closest to the body of all designs and is ideal for wear with a short tail jacket or vest. It usually carries the handgun with the muzzle rearward (rearward cant). The tension on the handgun is regulated by belt tightness. The Milt Sparks Summer Special and the Galco Royal Guard typify this design. ALL VERSIONS OF THE IWB STYLE HOLSTER ARE APPROVED FOR IDPA COMPETITION.
B. Pancake Style.
Pancake on body Pancake front Pancake rear
This design is made from two separate flat pieces of leather stitched together with belt slots on either side of the “pouch” that holds the handgun. This style pulls the handgun close into the body as the belt is tightened and is very concealable and secure. Pancake-style holsters are normally the most comfortable and concealable holsters. They are worn on the outside of the belt and usually carry the handgun muzzle rearward (rearward cant). The Galco Combat Master, Dillon Master and De Santis Speed Scabbard typify this design. ALL VERSIONS OF THE PANCAKE STYLE HOLSTER ARE APPROVED FOR IDPA COMPETITION.
C. Bruce Nelson/Askins Style.
Bruce Nelson on body BN front BN rear
This design has a belt tunnel on the back and a belt slot at the rear to pull the butt of the handgun into the body for better concealment. Tension on the handgun is usually created by a tight molded fit and/or tension adjustment. Most Bruce Nelson style holsters feature a re-enforced band around the top which facilitates easy one handed holstering and they usually carry the handgun vertically (neutral cant). The Sparks BN, Bianchi Askins Avenger and Dillon LTD. typify this design.
NOTE: Virtually all brands and variations of the three styles listed above that fully cover the trigger guard are suitable for continuous wear, concealed carry and therefore suitable for IDPA competition.
D. Pouch Style.
Pouch style on body Pouch front Pouch rear
This design features a “pouch” that holds the handgun and usually has a separate backpiece attached to the back of the “pouch” which attaches the holster to the belt. This “backpiece” can either be a belt tunnel, belt slots on either side of the “pouch” or a paddle that slides inside the pants. This design is often manufactured of synthetic materials and is normally the least concealable of the four styles listed here. Tension on the handgun is almost always created with a tension adjustment screw. Most pouch style holsters carry the handgun vertically (neutral cant). This style, while suitable for concealed carry, in many instances also lends itself well to competition use. Many pouch style holsters on the market are NOT suitable for IDPA competition. The Safariland model 5183, Wilson Combat Practical and the De Santis Pro Fed typify pouch style holsters that meet IDPA criteria.
Probably one of the most popular pouch style holsters is the current variation of the Uncle Mikes Kydex holster which is NOT suitable for concealed carry or IDPA competition due to its offset backpiece, which results in excessive offset from the belt/body.
2. Criteria of an IDPA Approved Holster
Holsters:
A. Must be designed for concealed carry and suitable for all day continuous wear.
B. Must be worn on a standard belt of no more than 1 ¾” width that must pass through the belt loops on the shooter’s pants.
C. Must fully cover the trigger of the firearm.
D. Must carry the firearm in a neutral (vertical) or muzzle rear cant, but have no adjustable cant backpieces. Holster cant that is adjustable by removing bolts and repositioning the backpiece is allowed. Exception: IWB style holsters do not have to meet this particular criterion.
E. Must hold the firearm with enough tension to allow the wearer to complete normal daily tasks without fear of losing the weapon.
F. Can have no offset backpieces and/or belt slots. The holster may not offset away from the belt and/or body. No gap is permitted in the following areas:
1. From the body to the inside of the belt.
2. From the outside of the belt to the inside of the backpiece and/or backside of the holster.
3. From the outside of the backpiece to the inside of the holster.
If you look through the belt slot area of the holster with it on the belt/body, you should not be able to see any daylight. If you can see through this belt tunnel area, the holster is not approved.
Holster/backpiece must be constructed of “normal thickness” common holster making materials, no filler is allowed to hide an offset. In simple terms, the back of the holster must be held tightly against the outside of the belt for proper concealed carry (for questions, refer to #1 above and re-read the “Purpose” section in the front of this rulebook).¹
G. Must be constructed of normal thickness common holster making materials (leather, Kydex, plastic, nylon, etc.).
H. May not position the firearm where the breech face (autos) or rear of the cylinder (revolvers) is below the center of the belt. NO drop loops are permitted.³ Holsters for females may position the breech face of a pistol or rear of the cylinder of a revolver up to 1 ½” below the center of the belt.
NOTE: IWB style holsters are exempt from this criterion.
I. Must hold the firearm positioned on the body so an object of ¾”width cannot pass between the shooter’s body and the inside of the firearm when the shooter is standing straight and upright.²
J. Must be positioned on the belt in a location that will keep the center of the trigger pad behind the centerline 4 of the body.
NOTE: Modification of current holsters and ammunition carriers to meet IDPA criteria is acceptable.
NOT Permitted:
A. Cross Draw Holsters.
B. Shoulder Holsters.
C. Small of the Back Holsters.
D. Holsters designed and/or marketed as “competition” models.
E. Muzzle forward or ‘on the belt’ adjustable cant holsters. Those that allow the cant to be adjusted by the shooter while the holster is on the belt are not allowed.
NOTE: Holsters with an adjustable cant via removal of bolts and repositioning of the backpiece are approved if set for neutral or muzzle rear cant.
F. Drop loop holsters.³
G. Positioning of the firearm where the breech face (autos) or the rear of the cylinder (revolvers) is below the center of the belt.³
H. Cutting of the front edge of the holster more that 1¾” below the breech face on pistols or 1” below the rear of the cylinder on revolvers.
I. Offset back-pieces and/or belt slots.³
J. Gap in the following areas:
1. From the body to the inside of the belt.
2. From the outside of the belt to the inside of the backpiece and/or backside of the holster.
3. From the outside of the back-piece to the inside of the holster.³
Not legal Legal
K. Seeing daylight when looking through the belt slot area of the holster with it on the belt/body.³
L. Any type of filler to hide an offset.
Exception – Police or military officers may use their duty rig, but ALL retention features of the holster MUST be used and all belt equipment (mace, handcuffs, etc.) must be present.
¹ NOTE: Holsters for females are exempt from F. criteria, but may not cant the handgun away from the body past 90 ° to the ground.
² NOTE: Female shooters are exempt from this test.
³ NOTE: Female shooters are exempt from this criterion.
4 NOTE: The seam on the side of a shooter’s pants may or may not indicate where the centerline of a shooter’s body is located. For IDPA purposes, the centerline of the body originates in the center of the armpit and goes straight down.
3. Future Holster Approval
At this time, IDPA is going to try to avoid having a holster list. However, should we find that competitors are straying from the purpose and principles of IDPA, an “extremely abbreviated and restrictive” approved holster list will be reinstated. MDs and SOs are encouraged by HQ to use the FTDR penalty when illegal equipment is used at their matches.
D. Belts.
Gun belts may be no wider than 1 ¾” or thicker than 5/16” and must pass through the pant loops.
E. Ammunition carriers.
1. IDPA Magazine Carrier Criteria
Magazine carrier must:
A. Be designed for concealed carry and suitable for all day continuous wear.
B. Be worn on a standard belt of no more than 1 ¾” width that must pass through the belt loops on the shooter’s pants.
C. Hold the magazine with enough tension to allow it to be turned upside down and retain a fully loaded magazine.
D. Cover 2” of the magazine as measured from the top of the cartridge rim down the back flat of the magazine tube.
2” measurement Front face of magazine covered Not Acceptable
E. Cover the entire front face of the portion of the magazine inside the carrier. The front face is defined as the side of the tube away from the shooter’s body.
F. Hold the magazine within 10 degrees of vertical (80-100° to the ground) position on the belt, no substantial forward or rear cant.
G. Be worn in a belt location that will position the front edge of the carrier behind the centerline of the body."
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I'm with Ron, I can't get it to play. Maybe it is my old system and not being very fast. I have a cable modem but my machine is older.
Drinking scotch that is (age deleted) years old doesn't make me a perv. But it would make me poor.
I can't afford the old scotch or the young girls.
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Thanks for getting her involved. My wife and 12 year old son just took the NRA basic pistol class together this past weekend. They seem to have fun.