Really? 3 grains will make minor with a 147 out of the 5.25? They really that fast?
For me, 3 grains of Titegroup and a non-moly 147 makes minor out of a 4.25". I haven't tried these bullets specifically, though. As others have mentioned, the OAL will depend on how your gun feeds and the chamber shape, and as always, work up.