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  1. Unfortunately, NRA isn't what it used to be.  Not even close.  I spent about 10 years on the board of directors of a large private club (2k+ members) with multiple ranges/disciplines, and NRA was very helpful in designing upgrades to our rifle and shotgun ranges.  But, that was 15+ years ago. 

  2. If you're designing from scratch, this might be helpful  Probably worth the $54.

     

    The NRA Range Source Book (Current Edition) is a technical source book for shooting range builders and operators. With 27 chapters of information on range operation and construction collected for you in a three-ring binder. The updated version of the NRA Source Book includes both information on Outdoor and Indoor Ranges, an extensive vendors list of those in the industry able to assist with the building or improvements to your range, as well as a section for general drawings for reference.

     

    https://materials.nrahq.org/index.php?route=product/product&path=91_113&product_id=404

  3. Sorry guys, major brain fart on my part.  And you're are absolutely right.  Revolver rounds get longer not shorter.  Back when I used to shoot at public ranges, one time a guy showed up in the stall next to me with a Ruger Super Redhawk in something like 454 Casull or 480.  Figured I didn't need to be around for that, so started packing up.  He fired one round and the cylinder locked up.

  4. Crimp for revolver rounds is completely different from semi-auto.  Revolver rounds, especially for magnum loads, typically use a roll crimp to prevent setback from recoil.  That's why revolver bullets often have a cannelure.  Semi-autos use a taper crimp and rely on adequate case sizing to prevent setback.  What's shown in the pictures above is perfectly fine and will make no difference in accuracy.

  5. 9 hours ago, donnyglock said:

    Venom’s all black DLC 4.6” is about the same price as the atlas. Maybe $150-200 more. 
    Don

     

    Yeah, but one's a true custom gun built the way you want it, and the other is production gun, with basically no options.  I know which one I'd pick.  And it's not a close call.

  6. If you look at the SAMMI recoil formula, the only thing that changes felt recoil for a given bullet weight is the burn rate of the powder.  Also, heavier bullets require a smaller powder charge.  These two facts back up what's widely acknowledged; that the combination of heavy bullet and fast powder results in the least felt recoil for a given power factor.  At least for a non-compensated gun.  As for what to shoot, some heavy bullet combos get to the point that they actually feel sluggish.  Some folks actually prefer lighter bullets for a more snappy recoil and faster return to target.  It's all personal preference and what works for you.

  7. 5 minutes ago, RJH said:

     

    This isn't supposed to be a getting out of bed and load your gun contest, it's supposed to be a shooting contest

     

    So along with doing away with the power factor requirement, we should do away with the "practical" element as well? 

  8. 49 minutes ago, shred said:

    Time for my annual reminder that Major has NOTHING TO DO WITH RECOIL.  It's about power-on-target, and always has been since Jeff Cooper created it.

     

    You can argue that LE's are concluding 9mm is "as effective", but A- they don't shoot 125PF and B- a lot of that is to improve the hits and qualification scores among lightly-trained officers.  If they could get equivalent hits with .40 or 10mmm or .45 more than a few would switch back..

     

     

    This is correct.  Those advocating minor only seem to ignore the fact that power factors for most 9mm defensive ammo is way above USPSA minor.  And by a significant amount.  Most are in the range of 150, and some are even higher than that.  No doubt bullet design and shot placement help bring 9mm closer to 40 and 45 in terms of real world performance.  But the amount of kinetic energy (a factor of velocity and mass) impacting the target will always be a key factor. 

  9. 1 hour ago, motosapiens said:

    7-10 yds really? i am seeing (and hearing about) significantly more difficult targets now that everyone is shooting dots.

     

    Point is, it hardly matters with minor pf and a dot.  Basically, it's a foot race/obstacle course where you pop off some rounds along the way.  Really not much different than SASS.  And with the growing contingent of LARP types, it's basically turning into SASS for the tacticool crowd.

  10. 7 minutes ago, RJH said:

     

     

    You can also mail long guns through the USPS. Doesn't apply in the op's situation, but as long as they don't cross state lines you can mail long guns person to person through the  Post office

     

     

    Pretty sure that long guns can also mail out of state to an FFL.

  11. 7 minutes ago, 392heminut said:

    The gun is being shipped by the manufacturer to themselves. Those policies by the shippers have been in effect for quite some time and don't have an effect on this type of situation.

     

    Sorry, missed the part about them sending you a label.  It's perfectly fine to do it that way w/no FFL.

  12. Both UPS and FedEx have implimented policies that restrict unlicensed individuals from shipping firearms.  USPS also prohibits nondealer shipment of firearms through the mail.  So, although federal law specifically allows unlicensed individuals to ship firearms to a manufacturer or gunsmith for repair or modification, and to receive the item back without going through a dealer (meaning no new 4473), that's no longer possible with the big carriers.  It has to be shipped by someone with a special account and they won't give you that status unless you're an FFL.

  13. 1 minute ago, RJH said:

     

     

    I don't necessarily think that the 2011s are an issue. But the reason they could be is if  carry optics and limited optics are lumped together, guns like Glock and CZ, etc would probably end up going away overall. Those companies may be disinclined at that point to spend any money on sponsorship and such. So maybe it's better to have the divisions separate for money more than anything else. I don't think there is an actual discernible difference in match outcome however. 

     

    Also, if you did allow Sao guns in CO as it is now many people would believe that you just made their guns obsolete. I don't agree that, but that would be the belief. So instead of stepping on the toes of the largest division there were a couple of solid reasons to make LO it's own thing

     

     

     

    Sorry, I just don't see either of those justifying an entire separate division, which is exactly the same as an existing division, except for a certain type of gun that offers no real competitive advantage.  Particularly when we have too many divisions and too many Nation championships already.  Personally, I think the best suggestion so far is still four division: Minor Irons, Minor Optics, Major Irons, Major Optics. 

     

  14. 12 minutes ago, RJH said:

    Moto has the best argument for that, in that 2011's would still dominate.

     

    No idea why this is a problem.  If it's not 2011s, it's gonna be something else.  And if people like to shoot 2011s, and they do, why would you want to discourage that?

     

    13 minutes ago, RJH said:

    Just to touch back though on the nine major in limited guns, that's not really a realistic argument. Because for a while nine major wasn't even allowed in open guns, but 38 super always was.

     

    You're right.  Forgot about that.

     

    11 minutes ago, jrb06 said:

    The idea that everything should be bare bones basic and off the shelf available (ammo, gun, mag, holster) is a fantasy. The person who comes to their very first match will most likely have off the shelf basic gear but after that one event, there is absolutely nothing stock or what some want to refer to as off the shelf. Everything we use is made and designed to supposedly give us an edge in some form or another including reloading.

     

    Some say .40 is an dying caliber for what it was originally designed for as a defensive round and LEO issued caliber which is true. Who cares if it is dying defensive round and LEO issued caliber we are participating in a game, and to some the option to use something not off the shelf and different is what may have drawn them to that division, not everyone is into cookie cutter division with little difference between them. If you don't think the division needs major that's your opinion and good that you gave it. Just do not lecture others on how they are wrong or dumb wanting to stay with something they have invested time and money in just because you don't like it.

     

    Well said.

  15. 14 minutes ago, RJH said:

     

    Yes, but wouldn't you agree that making a division based around a caliber that nobody shoots and is a reload only round would be foolish?

     

     

    I wasn't there back when the first limited division was created, but I have a firm belief that the reason that 40 was made the minimum for major was because 38 super was a basically dead and reload only option, when 40 could be had off the shelf and was easily available. I think they were smart enough then to go, "if we make this based around 38 super, everybody will be tied to that forever and it's just a big pain in the ass, but forty is great because it's everywhere." And there were plenty of non-comp 38 super guns that could make major and didn't blow up. So saying 38 super making major is hard on a gun would be disingenuous

     

    Now 20 some odd years later 40 is the dying caliber that 38 super was and 9 mm is everywhere. So let's use the same common sense that they used way back when and know that it's time to move on from 40.

     

     

     

    They did the .40 min for major mainly because they knew if they didn't people would load 9 major for their Limited guns, which they thought would be a safety issue.  As for .40 being a dying caliber, I think that's overstating things a bit.  There's still a LOT of brass out there for relatively cheap, and although it's not nearly as popular for a carry round, it's still in use and commercial ammo is still available.  It's not anywhere close to .38S situation.  Just seems there are plenty of divisions to shoot minor pf already, so some of us just don't see the point of adding more.  Like I posted above, CO and LO are essentially the same thing, except for SA in LO, which is no real advantage.  So, what's the point of having two separate divisions?  Haven't seen a legit argument for that yet.

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