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restraints
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rubber gloves
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bleach
oh wait you probably meant stuff I'll use AT the match...
In all seriousness though I don't have a list so much as I have a compartmentalized way of storing all my gear, so its always in the same place every time.
I use a Spec Ops Brand 3 Day pack as my range bag.
Inside there are 3 sub-organizers
1 bag for rifle and pistol ammo and mags
1 bag for shotgun ammo (and mags if applicable)
1 bag for spare parts, cleaning equipment and tools
The front of the SOB pack has a pouch that I keep a spare set of gloves, poncho, and hat.
I have two hardcases on the SOB pack for a still camera and a video camera
First Aid/Trauma kit on the outside and clearly marked.
My actual shooting gear goes in a pelican case: pistol belt, chest rig, gloves, hearing protection.
By putting everything in the same place every time I very very rarely forget anything. Ironman is the one match where I do a detailed packing list and check everything off as I pack it; forgetting something there can mean Trooper failure.
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Tiger Valley started hosting a 4 man team match in 2009. The match combines shooting and physical challenges. Some of these challenges included an 8 foot tall wall the whole team had to get over, and an 8 foot tall attic prop the entire team had to get into. At the 2009 match my team used a fire escape style rope ladder for the 8 foot tall wall, but there was obviously room for improvement. If we had a more rigid ladder it would be useful for a wider variety of props and situations.
One of the rules for the match was any equipment used on any stage had to be carried on every stage. Frankly this is fair, given the "survival" theme of the match, so the challenge was selecting a ladder system and carry system that was practical to carry with us throughout the match.
A local tac-gear/police supply shop happened to have a SWAT extension ladder. Originally the ladder was 12 feet long and 25 pounds. I removed the bottom section, reducing the weight by 5 pounds and the height by 2 feet. The weight savings was worth it.
I had Coyote Tactical design and make a pack to carry the ladder effectively. http://coyotetactical.blogspot.com/2011/01/telesteps-ladder-pack.html
Here's Kelly's blog about the Tiger Valley Team Match from 2010.
http://kellynealsblog.wordpress.com/2010/03/30/tiger-valley-team-match-2010/
While it looks slow in the video going over the wall, I don't think we would have been able to do it otherwise with the bad weather conditions. Getting into the sniper nest would have been even harder.
Training for the 2011 match:
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WTH kind of match annoucement is that? For a good time call... Sounds like something you find written on the door of the crapper.
The "festival" part is what has me concerned...
"Wanted Manly Men with Machineguns. Leather vests and chaps not required, but strongly encouraged"
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I prefer to shoot to slide lock and throw it at the target, because I have a glock and I don't care. But that wasn't a poll option.
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2 man teams...not sure on that, I'd send them an email. The mil match is already 2/3 full.
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I sent them an email:
Hello,I'd like a little more information about the survival trial before my partner and I sign up for it.
1) Will land navigation be part of the course, or will the course be marked out?
2) Will there be resupply, or do we have to carry all the water we need for the entire 24 hours?
3) With the event being from 4PM-4PM are we intending to camp out over night, or will be active that entire time?
4) If we are going to be moving at night is night vision allowed or recommended?
5) With regards to physical challenges: what can we expect walls to climb? heavy stuff to carry or drag? We've done the Tiger Valley team match before and the American Heroes challenge, should we expect similar physical challenges?
6) Will the course mostly be hiking, or will we be climbing the hills/mountains at the whittington center?
Sorry for all the questions, I just want to make sure we're not getting in over our heads.
Their response:
Thank you for your inquiry into the 2011 Survival Trial. Below are answers to your questions:1. There will be no land navigation during the course.
2. There will be resupply water points throughout the course only. You will be individually responsible for a carrying a minimum of 100oz. of water.
3. This is a 24 hour event, so movement, shooting, and obstacle negotiation will continue throughout the night. The course is 25 miles but the movement may be longer.
4. Night vision will not be allowed during the event. There is a packing list layout prior to the event start time.
5. We will not comment on the types of obstacles, physical events, or shooting events that you will encounter during the course. We do offer a physical train-up on the Survival Trial Facebook Page that will adequately prepare you both physically and mentally for the course. We will also offer shooting train-ups throughout the year there, along with survival information that will be helpful to you or your team. The intent is to provide an environment where you must rely on wit and skill to successfully negotiate – just like the real world.
6. Please refer to question 5. Again, we will not release specifics on the route although if you are familiar with the NRAWC, mountains could be a very real possibility.
Thank you again for your inquiry into the 2011 Survival Trial. You mentioned that you did not want to get in over your heads and this is a very truthful and realistic question. However, we believe in a training standard that keeps us in peak performance both technically and physically at all times. It is a lifestyle change on many levels. There is six full months before this event begins and we give you the tools necessary to be successful. This is an event that will define much of your future perspectives and will be well worth the time invested. Thanks again for your interest and please let us know if we can be of further assistance with anything.
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What... No running with the sand bag this year?
You won't see anything like that at any of the local matches here. But since you asked, here's a training video from this past weekend:
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Was the shotgun actually used in the killings? The article says he used a hunting knife and a Ruger Mini-14
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I love the "slashing prices" commentary from the peanut gallery!
"clean up on aisle 3" was from the peanut gallery...the rest was me.
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I prefer to build stuff myself, that way when its messed up I know exactly how it happened
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Here's the blogs on the competition rigs Coyote Tactical has made:
http://coyotetactical.blogspot.com/2011/01/competition-rig-v2.html
http://coyotetactical.blogspot.com/2011/01/competition-rig-v1.html
You can see how reloading from the vest works at the start of this video:
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I am not opposed to resorting to cannibalism against other teams...
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Well this certainly sounds interesting. Just got it in an E-mail from a friend today...
The Survival Trial is a recreational shooting event that combines practical and precision shooting on all firearm platforms with outdoor survival obstacles and real world engagements.This is an extremely physical event coupled with highly technical shooting engagements and obstacle negotiation. The faint of heart need not apply.
Covering over 25 miles of mountainous backcountry, the Survival Trial will push all competitors to physical and mental limits.
A packing list will be emailed upon registration. Participants only need to provide a sidearm chambered in 9mm and AR Carbine chambered in 5.56mm NATO. Ammunition and Precision Rifles will be provided.
September 10 - 11, 2011
Open to the Public:
http://www.professionalmarksmen.com/survival-trial.php
Open to Military/LE
http://www.professionalmarksmen.com/operator-challenge.php
Sounds like the open to the public one will be similar, but with more time to complete the course.
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Die Krupps - The Vampire Strikes Back
KMFDM - Megalomaniac
KMFDM - Risen
KMFDM - Sturm und Drung
Five Finger Death Punch - Bad Company
Dope - You Spin Me Round
Dope - Die Mother *&^%er, Die
Adema - The Way you like it
Adema - Freaking Out
Skinny Puppy - Optimissed
Korn - Coming Undone
Hollywood Undead - Undead
New Order - Confusion (Blade Blood Rave kill mix)
Mindless Self Indulgence - Straight to Video
NERD - Rockstar (Jason Nevins Remix)
Avenged Sevenfold - Welcome to the Family
Avenged Sevenfold - Almost Easy
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I hope it comes back in 2012, and I hope I can attend again then. I'm glad I was able to attend 5/6 years its happened so far. The AMU FB3G challenge coin is the coolest thing I've gotten at a match in 10 years of shooting.
The FB3G match probably had the biggest impact of any one single event in presenting the sport to the public in a positive fashion and bringing media attention to it.
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Hey Russel
Dont give away ALL the secrets
Jim
I'm sorry Jim, I just can't in good conscience let these n00bs hit the range so undergunned without one of these things: http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=31553
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what have you done if anything to trick yours out..
I spray painted mine with some super BAD-ASS krylon hammer finish silver paint. It's made me at least 10% faster.
I also added one of those 6 prong porcupine bayonet things. Looking cool = being cool.
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I liked the long range stage this month. I wish we could do cool stuff like that more often.
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So many people that read this document miss the most important part. It applies to IMPORT of shotguns with those configurations. It doesn't apply to domestically made shotguns, or shotguns modified once they hit the states. With that being said, there are very few shotguns that this clarification (not even a ruling or law) applies to. And the ones that it does apply to, it applied to years before this document was released.
The sticky thing is that the Gun Control Act Also defines Destructive Devices as any gun with a bore over .50", except for shotguns with sporting purposes. Right now this document only applies to imported guns...if they applied the same sporting purpose test to domestically made or modified guns, this could get really interesting (not in a good way).
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What will probably be targeted is the MD 20 round drum magazine, as it has no SPORTING use as determined by ATF.
Anything about 5 rounds is considered "non-sporting" per the current document; box and drum mags.
There is no legal avenue for BATF to rule that the drums or mags cannot be made without legislation being passed. As long as domestic manufacturers and importers don't include them with the guns at the point of sale the guns can't be ruled as non-sporting and thus DDs under the GCA.
Can't understand why the drum mag is banned as I have seen shooters with 20 box mags --- of course, I don't understand a lot of what the government does.
I think I'll keep my two Saigas for now.
The document states that drums and box mags of more than 5 rounds are non-sporting, and thus prohibited from importation.
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hmmmm my tube shoots loose if I don't use the clamp. The clamp shifts forward when I do use it (I'll try the tape or sand paper method). My gun also likes to launch the last two rounds out of the side saddle at my face while I am shooting too.
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With respect, you must be reading a different document than I've seen. the 34-page doc I've been reading documents a whole bunch of firearm features which the ATF considers "not particularly suitable or readily adaptable for sporting purposes". Since the point of the document is to examine the current class of shotguns to determine their importation under the "sporting purposes" proviso, this seems to telegraph the ATF's intent to stop allowing importation of shotguns that exhibit those features. Bear in mind that the current law only allows importation for guns which are deemed to have "sporting purposes".
Among the features they cite as "not particularly suitable...for sporting purposes": (page 5)
-- folding, telescoping or collabsible stocks
-- magazines over 5 rounds, or drum magazines
-- integrated rail systems
-- forward grips or other parts designed for gripping the shotgun
Yes, I read the whole document. I am also well read on the gun control act of 1968. The point being is NO shotgun is currently imported with those features anyway. The only guns that are, are restricted for military/LE use only. This is no way effects what people are doing to Saigas once they are imported as individuals; it could effect what gunsmiths are doing with guns they are modifying before they are sold to customers. That is a more complicated legal issue I don't want to get into here.
The document also states that detach magazines and pistol grips are not unsporting...so maybe we'll be able to get Saigas in now with pistol grips rather than that stupid sporter stock they come with and everyone changes out anyway.
My guess is ATF is putting out this list so manufacturers and importers have some guidance as to what will be acceptable and they don't have to do so much back and forth to get rulings issued on specific guns.
As far as USPSA goes, while they do admit that sporting purposes may evolve over time, they explicitly state that redefining "practical shooting" as a sport is not within their scope, and that they based their definition of "sporting purposes" on the "traditional sports of hunting, trap and skeet target shooting." (page 13). They go on to say that a change in ATF's position on practical shooting has "potential implications" beyond the scope of the study, and the study group believes that "a more thorough and complete assessment is necessary before ATF can consider practical shooting a generally recognized sporting purpose."Compare this document to the one from 1989 that was openly hostile towards "police combat games"...this is progress. Also if they admit 3 gun is a sporting purpose now every military style rifle is now acceptable for import in its original configuration; this would undo 21 years of regulatory policy. That isn't something they're going to take lightly.
So, yeah, it's positive in that it at least shows they're thinking about things. But they continue to base their import regulations on a definition of "sporting purposes" that excludes... well, frankly, many of the features of the Saiga.And which features does the Saiga-12 have as imported that are on that list? None of them.
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a real combat shooter would rather have an extra canteen than a pistol...
This is the first thing that crossed my mind. I wondered how often soldiers resort to sidearms? seems like primary would have to go down and no pick up available? Or run dry? If it's ammo shortage, seems like sending more ammo is a better answer?
Anyways, I'd be cautious about chasing this two hard. Seems like spending a lot of energy/money upgrading the weakest firearm on the field would still leave you undergunned when it's all over.
I am curious if you know the frequency of sidearm usage?
Uh...the critical bit of information was in his first sentence.
I am looking for information to help guide the development and testing in the Special Operations Community.
He's not talking about arming non-combat arms troops with red dot sighted pistols, or even normal infantry units. He's talking about the guys most likely to be engaging in direct action missions where having a sidearm is certainly of benefit.
Much of the modern battlefield is in urban areas where having a pistol is of benefit to anyone that can actually get one. That "extra canteen" is probably of benefit to someone patrolling the mountains of Afghanistan; a pistol is probably more beneficial to someone operating in the city and clearing buildings.
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I think you'll gain more useful information as far as your application from WarriorTalk's subforum dedicated to red dots on self-defense guns:
http://www.warriortalk.com/forumdisplay.php?205-Red-Dot-Sighted-Pistols
Here's my review of using an RMR equipped Glock at the Ironman 3 Gun last year:
http://www.warriortalk.com/showthread.php?70449-RMR-Glock-at-Ironman-3-Gun-AAR
BUIS are now available in line with the dot.
As you can see from my post, Safariland style duty holsters can be modified for the purpose and still retain the gun just as well.
Red Dot set ups in this particular configuration may have value to SWAT Teams or other direct action teams that do not spend a lot of time directly exposed to the elements. They may have value to the CCW guy as well.
One of the drawbacks I encountered in having the red dot on my Glock at Ironman is that sand and dust accumulated in the lens while sitting in my holster. It never got to the point where it would have been unusable, but it certainly reduced effectiveness. I made it a point of cleaning out the lens before every stage. If someone were using it operationally, while constantly exposed to the elements, they probably wouldn't have that luxury when it was time to use it. The problem could be reduced with better holster design; a hood for the sight that swings out of the way when the gun is drawn. The debris accumulation problem is not as bad with red dots on rifles given that they generally aren't carried in a manner that the lens is straight up to accumulate dust as quickly.
How is this ruled?
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I'd rather have a shooter clear and ground the rifle (setting it down deliberately isn't the same as dropping it IMHO) than have them running backwards that far with a rifle. Keeps the muzzle in a safe direction, the shooter isn't going to trip on something moving backwards, and the RO can easily stay out of the way.