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DNROI has already stated that stroking a SS is in fact legal. Shay asked before he built it.
Dustcover is legal length.
Colt 38 factory slides are internally lightened. The cuts in this gun match those.
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Tumble in large grain white rice for about 10 minutes.
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I am working on making a truly "Flat" shooting Open gun setup right now. Its close, but not quite there right now. I think it is possible to produce a near zero dot displacement Open Major setup. But it takes a crap ton of objective observation while shooting, troubleshooting and retesting. Not many people are willing to put in that much effort to find a truly "Balanced" setup.
I am finding that more often than not shooters tend to jump on one bandwagon or another and simply roll with however it ends up shooting. That isn't a bad thing as finding a setup that works reliably is good. But working "good" and fine tuning to make it work "Perfectly" are two totally different things.
We have had team guns that were so flat the dot merely wiggled side to side a bit. It was very hard to shoot with any speed. Shay opened the comp up a bit to allow some vertical rise and times in on the clock testing improved.
Maybe I am chasing a dead end. Either way it will be a fun voyage.
Sometimes that is half the fun. Worst gun I ever shot, the comp was so good the muzzle actually dipped. The dot would actually go out of the top of the glass. It was impossible to shoot that gun with any speed at all.
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I am working on making a truly "Flat" shooting Open gun setup right now. Its close, but not quite there right now. I think it is possible to produce a near zero dot displacement Open Major setup. But it takes a crap ton of objective observation while shooting, troubleshooting and retesting. Not many people are willing to put in that much effort to find a truly "Balanced" setup.
I am finding that more often than not shooters tend to jump on one bandwagon or another and simply roll with however it ends up shooting. That isn't a bad thing as finding a setup that works reliably is good. But working "good" and fine tuning to make it work "Perfectly" are two totally different things.
We have had team guns that were so flat the dot merely wiggled side to side a bit. It was very hard to shoot with any speed. Shay opened the comp up a bit to allow some vertical rise and times in on the clock testing improved.
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As I have stated many times in the past. Flat is nearly irrelevant. Predictable and repeatable is where it is at.
I want a gun that does the exact same thing every time I pull the trigger.
Of course i don't want some flippy mess, but most put too much time in searching for a "flat" gun which is
actually a "squiggly" gun and harder to shoot that a "consistent" gun.
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Very slick install. 13min vid. I could see it easily being a sub 30min job to install it on a running 1050.
I had mine up and loading ammo in under 15 minutes when I got mine.
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This is 1800 rounds per hour. 38 Supercomp with 10.5 VV 3n38 with a Precision Delta 124 JHP. I tried to show how full the case is and how little powder spillage.
http://vid638.photobucket.com/albums/uu106/shadyscott999/Mk7_zpswzvebbhr.mp4
Scott, What is your brass prepping process for this machin
I dry tumble in corncob for about an hour the spritz the brass with a little home made case lube. That is it. Fill everything up and hit the go button.
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I will check tonight to be sure, but I think the dwell is 0 and the index is 3 or 4. Cuts the "real" production rate to about 1760 RPH when set at 1800rph.
I had to spend some time with the flare an make it a little bigger than I ran manually to keep bullets from tipping. I also had to and tighten the shellplate a little bit.
Runs 100% now.
I have insanely little flare, and very little bullethold as I load mine to just over 30mm, (1.181 inches) and the 124gr frontier match bullets are shorter than say rainer. Its all a very sharp edge to walk, I currently load 9 major on the 650, eventhough I have 4x 1050s...
powder spillage is one of the reasons for thatmy backup plan is just a GSI toolhead, as it seats on the upstroke.
how long have you had your unit?
I have had the 1050's for about 3 years. I have had the Mk7 about a month and a half.
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When it is time to fill primers, just hit "stop" fill primer and the hit go. No reason to complete the stroke. I just stop mine when it is in the down position.
Changing the speed of the shellplate index is worth the extra $1600 alone. I am loading super comp with 10.5 of 3n38. Manually I would have powder everywhere after 1k rounds.
I loaded 4k last weekend and there were maybe 3 specs of powder on the shellplate and that was at 1800 rph.
There are some decent auto drives on the market, there are none that offer the features of the Mk7. It's not even close IMO
Thats some great tips, and feedback, thank you sir. what do you use for dwell and index setting in that video?
I will check tonight to be sure, but I think the dwell is 0 and the index is 3 or 4. Cuts the "real" production rate to about 1760 RPH when set at 1800rph.
I had to spend some time with the flare an make it a little bigger than I ran manually to keep bullets from tipping. I also had to and tighten the shellplate a little bit.
Runs 100% now.
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Can you see any situation where the Mark7 would be worth the extra $1500?I'm really enjoying my AmmoBot. I've not had it terribly long, but long enough to know I should have bought it sooner!
Overall, it's incredibly simple to set up and operate. I'm far from a mechanically capable person, so when I had a few sub-basic questions, the owner was very responsive and helpful. I think I was up and running in under an hour after unboxing the gear.
I've had the occasional hangup while running, but really, nothing would have been different than if I was still pulling the handle manually. One 9mm case somehow got on to the shell plate upside down from the case feeder. At the resize station, the decapping pin poked right through the primer, but when the die made contact with the case, the machine stopped and when it sensed a short stroke, halted. At that point, I took the case out of the priming station since it hadn't been swaged, and moved the rest back one position. The case that was in the crimp station did get pushed into the completed cartridge bin, but was easy enough to find and put back to the correct station to be completed. That's a lot of words in a big paragraph to talk about the details of one of the only stoppages I've had in my first 6K rounds of 9mm loaded in the last month.
Also, at first I was a little nervous about the handle left on the machine and in full swing. I was put at ease quickly during my first session loading. I basically stand one step to the left of the machine watching the powder drop, to know for certain it's reaching full stroke, and watching to verify bullets are not dislodged between the dropper and rotating to the seating station. I've lost probably 5 or less bullets and because I was in place to see it, hit the hand-held stop button so I could hand place a bullet before the downstroke for seating was completed. I've run the machine at almost 2200 rounds per hour, which really tired my eyes. I typically run between 1600-1800, have no issues at that speed, and it's easy enough to stop if something looks "off".
The second reason I was happy that the handle was still in place was this past week, when I decided to shoot limited for the first time in two years, but had no ammo loaded. Since I haven't received my Mr. BulletFeeder .40 conversion yet, I was able to pull the handle manually and load enough ammo for the match. It's also helpful to have for set up and tuning the powder drop before getting in to a full loading session.
If anyone has questions on the AmmoBot, feel free to ask. I'm not even close to an expert on it, but have practical use and experience on it now.
My post from the Mk7 thread...
Changing the speed of the shellplate index is worth the extra $1600 alone. I am loading super comp with 10.5 of 3n38. Manually I would have powder everywhere after 1k rounds.
I loaded 4k last weekend and there were maybe 3 specs of powder on the shellplate and that was at 1800 rph.
There are some decent auto drives on the market, there are none that offer the features of the Mk7. It's not even close IMO
This is 1800 rounds per hour. 38 Supercomp with 10.5 VV 3n38 with a Precision Delta 124 JHP. I tried to show how full the case is and how little powder spillage.
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This is 1800 rounds per hour. 38 Supercomp with 10.5 VV 3n38 with a Precision Delta 124 JHP. I tried to show how full the case is and how little powder spillage.
http://vid638.photobucket.com/albums/uu106/shadyscott999/Mk7_zpswzvebbhr.mp4
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Mine has arrived it seems, to bad I wont get to play with it from at least a week :/
A few key features sold the mark7 to me
indexing speed, and dwell, haveing seen the PW and rotaries, they REALLY spin around fast, for processsing this isnt a problem, but I also want to load 9 major, thoose cases are FULL, so I really baby the indexing, you can make it superslow on the mark7, if you look closely at videos, you can see even at default "fastest" setting, it slows down quite a lot. This also ensures case seats properly, and you dont end up hurting any mechanical components as well, so again really a big thing.
With 9 major and 8.7gr on 3n38 I barely leave a lip for bullet to seat on, and I dont want it to topple over during indexing, and if it doesnt seat 100% correct from mrbf die, I wanna be able to catch it when indexing. My 9 brass is more of a short 38SC than a 9, as it goes through 2 sizeing dies and 2 expanders during processing.
like Ive said before.. VFD/digital clutch is important. and it wont jolt on bulged brass as pointed out by TDS-US on his youtube channel, it will just resize it.
I was originally just going to use it for processing, but after seeing so many vids, reading the manual and seeing how much thought is put into it, I will use it for loading as well.
I got about 10l cases of 9 to be processesed and Im gonna load a years supply of 40 minor and 40 major short... + misc.. Ill try to put out a few videos, my workspace is really crude, but a friend needs his open gun fixed, and he's a contractor, so I think we will work that one out
If the mark7 guys are reading, beeing able to stop to fill primers on DOWNstroke is sooo much nicer for us RF100 guys most of the time, I noticed it does end cycle and stops on upstroke.
I will give ammobot some cred, its a good cheap solution, and it keeps everything simple, definetly looks cool.
When it is time to fill primers, just hit "stop" fill primer and the hit go. No reason to complete the stroke. I just stop mine when it is in the down position.
Changing the speed of the shellplate index is worth the extra $1600 alone. I am loading super comp with 10.5 of 3n38. Manually I would have powder everywhere after 1k rounds.
I loaded 4k last weekend and there were maybe 3 specs of powder on the shellplate and that was at 1800 rph.
There are some decent auto drives on the market, there are none that offer the features of the Mk7. It's not even close IMO
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case lube cuts the sizing effort by probably 50%. You will also spill less powder and your whole operation will be smoother.
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The ammobot is nowhere near the same thing. Watch the videos, look at the control systems, the Mk7 is a huge step up.
It's not $1600 worth of difference!!
Are you sure? Have you used both?
Just that sound from the Ammobot would drive me crazy. That alone is worth the price difference for me.
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The auto drive wars are heating up. LOL
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ummm. There were guns stolen out of cars in the parking lot at nationals.
Now THAT really pis..s me off.
What type of people are we importing into USPSA lately?
I really doubt it was the shooters. It would be very easy to show up and walk the parking lot looking for unlocked cars there. I know Manny was selling raffle tickets to give case to a shooter who had their stuff stolen.
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ummm. There were guns stolen out of cars in the parking lot at nationals.
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Another overlooked advantage on the Mk7 is that it can be used with both the RL1050 and the Super. The chain drive systems that I am aware of cannot be use with the RL's.
That is the disadvantage to the rotary is that they pretty much change a Super into an RL but yes Craig makes them for both.
That must be new. When I started looking last year, Craig would not do an RL. He told me to sell it and buy a Super.
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Just got my Mark 7 this weekend. Took me a whole 13 minutes to set up and start loading ammo. The thing is silly easy to setup and use. I did have to tweak my Mr. Bulletfeeder flare a bit to stop bullets from tipping at 1500 rph which is probably the realistic max (for me anyway) when loading supercomp.
I think the biggest advantage of this system is the plug and play aspect and the nearly limitless expansion capability. Using SD cards you can easily upgrade the firmware and add features as they are released.Another overlooked advantage on the Mk7 is that it can be used with both the RL1050 and the Super. The chain drive systems that I am aware of cannot be use with the RL's.
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I actually have nothing against CK. I always think it is a good thing for shooters to have more options. My opinion is 100% based on the machining I have seen.
Team Akai will never like CKI prefer the PT by a mile. I was not impressed by the machining on the couple CK that i saw.
I love the designs in the akai guns held one before and its great machining but its very loose and it rattles a lot.
Okay. LOL
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Team Akai will never like CKI prefer the PT by a mile. I was not impressed by the machining on the couple CK that i saw.
I actually have nothing against CK. I always think it is a good thing for shooters to have more options. My opinion is 100% based on the machining I have seen.
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All 4 people who shoot or will shoot 357 SIG are really concerned about this.
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I prefer the PT by a mile. I was not impressed by the machining on the couple CK that i saw.
powder spillage is one of the reasons for that
Akai Single Stack legal for Single Stack?
in USPSA/IPSC Rules
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That I don't not know. I will tell Shay about this thread and maybe he will chime in.