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  1. This thing that helped me the most was becoming an RO and setting up stages for the local matches. When the safety committe walks through and tears your stage apart you learn a lot (assuming you have a good safety committee). When you have to rearrange everything with people waiting to get the match started you become motivated not to make the same mistakes.

    The good news ... when you practice really good course design you know what to look for. When someone poorly sets up a stage, you will be able to recognize it and really take advantage of it.

    Other than that, I pick up tricks following the veterans around. Some of them are pretty sneaky.

    To answer your question though, I don't know any book, tape, or training class.

  2. * short round may not be in Texas, but he once was, and he sure could use some help with his diet and eating habits

    Texas is in my heart no matter where I am. The Texas inspection and registration stickers are still on the windshield of the jeep and the license plate is in a drawer waiting to be framed to take it's place next to the mounted gold plated cow patty.

    As far as diet and eating habits I was going to say I can't be that bad, but considering for dinner tonight I had two chinese cigarettes, 3 MGD's, and a strawberry flavored Bubblicious (pronounced Bubba-licious) .. I don't think I can argue with you.

  3. I believe that when someone is sincerely participating in a relationship they give a part or most of themselves to it. When that relationship goes away for whatever reason that part or most goes missing. Beware of the dark side, it will try to fill that gap <_< ... then again, the dark side is a lot of fun :P

    It's also  an opportunity to make sure that the sub-3 el pres happens soon

    ;) 

    I agree with this one.

  4. Well, I'm not discouraged and since I'm retired, I can devote the time to get it started and keep it going. We will start slowly and try and get a concensus of likey shooters in the area as to format, dates, etc.

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    That's Excellent! Be sure to keep it fun for you so you don't burn out too, and let us know how it goes. Good luck and happy shooting!

  5. <sigh>

    I know :D ... and last night we got two buckets of corona (even though we were drinking snake-bites) because the girls handing out the corona posters and the key chains were really nice (they were cute too ;) ). I'm definitely not a slave to fashion (look at how I dress and you'll know), but sometimes it's really fun to give in.

    "Sameness is the mother of disgust, variety the cure. "

  6. Just had an Onyx corona-size at my old neighbor's place. Two thumbs up. Truly does taste just like chocolate. Smells even better. :)

    Hmm ... interesting. I've been looking at that cigar and thinking that it had to be all hype. I'll have to try one now.

  7. Hammer following isnt a broken part in itself. Neither is a lightly tensioned sear spring.

    Wow ... I didn't think of it this way. I was considering "broken gun" = "broken part" under 10.4.9. Technically a "lightly tensioned sear spring" is not a broken part seems like an interesting thing to consider.

    10.5 would not apply. Examples of unsafe gunhandling are given and what he did didnt match any of them.

    10.5 was not considered for application in this case.

  8. What is meant by the "emmotional [sic] state" of the shooter?

    Main Entry: emo·tion·al

    Function: adjective

    1 : of or relating to emotion

    Main Entry: emo·tion

    Function: noun

    2 c : a psychic and physical reaction (as anger or fear) subjectively experienced as strong feeling and physiologically involving changes that prepare the body for immediate vigorous action

    Main Entry: state

    Function: noun

    1 a : mode or condition of being <a state of readiness>

    Perhaps his emmotions [sic] weren't that big of a factor?

    In my judgement they were. However, Flex is right. We are going through this exercise in order to determine how to specifically apply the rules.

    I don't like the unsportsmanlike conduct DQ suggestion.  Seems like UCDQ is the catch all rule when you really want to DQ, but just can't seem to find a better rule.

    This DQ was issued under 10.4.1 accidental discharge in an unsafe direction for the second discharge. Rule 10.4.9 was not appealed for by the shooter on the instance of the second discharge/detonation. As a result 10.7.1 was not pursued by the RO and ARO for the events leading to the second discharge. The rules for 10.6 Unsportsmanlike Conduct were not applied at anytime.

    I'm no RO and I don't pretend to be one, but unless we define the exact process for unload and show clear I don't think the shooter should get the DQ.

    We do have a process. Review section 8.3 specifically 8.3.6 and 8.3.7 for the unload and show clear procedures.

    I hope that if my pistol ever gets unsafe and I either don't realize it, or unknowingly continue, that the RO will stop me too.

    The RO should, as was done in this case, stop you.

  9. For the sake of the discussion, let me ask this - if the gun is completely mechanically sound, and is deliberately put into a hammer down, loaded chamber condition, is it safe to thumb back the hammer?

    It has to be because this is not restricted in USPSA production. Review Appendix D4.17 which does not exist in US Appendix D9.

  10. Hi,

    I'm the friend that kevin c is referring to who was the RO at the time.

    I've been giving this a lot of thought all week ...

    From the rules perspective:

    it [hammer] came forward...and the pistol discharged once (in a safe direction, finger off the trigger).

    To me, this is a clear indication "broken" part. I don't think we can expect to get into expert gunsmithing debates while RO'ing. The litmus test for me is, "is that how the gun is supposed to work?"

    When the hammer on a 1911 derived gun goes back...it is supposed to stay back, until the trigger is pulled.

    I don't think this would be a DQ...because of the exception under 10.4.9

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    I had to stop the shooter for unsafe gun. So far no DQ.

    ...thumbing back the hammer again with the magazine out, or was following his habit of thumbing back the hammer before racking the slide. Unfortunately, he still had a round in the chamber, and, yes, the hammer fell again and the gun put a second hole into the barricade immediately down range (finger again not on the trigger).

    Again...I don't see grounds for the DQ. Thumbing the hammer back might his way of doing the ULASC. I think he could argue that same Exception under 10.4.9 that he had earlier...AND, it looks like he gets a bonus exception under 10.4.3.1

    The discharge occured before 8.3.7 ICHDH. No DQ for this. Furthermore, I agree that 10.4.9 could be used as an argument.

    The closest rule I have to justify the DQ is 10.4.1 regarding a shot travelling in an unsafe direction since the discharge travelled through a couple of barricades before impacting the berm. However, since I know that the barricades were not "specified in the written stage briefing by the match organizers as being unsafe" I believe this could have been argued to.

    That's basically all I have from the rules perspective.

    ...and partly because neither he or I liked where this guy was emotionally.

    This one sure is tricky.

    When I first read this, I didn't like it because it seemed so subjective. The more I think about it, the more it seems this also applied to the situation. After I issued the stop command, I had to issue the ULSC command a few times as the shooter's emotional state continued to escalate. This culminated into the second discharge. This might have been a good time to call 10.7.1.

    Included in our squad was two people who were shooting at our club for the first time and one shooter who was shooting his very first IPSC match. With the exception of kevin c and me there was no one else in the squad that was really comfortable being the RO.

    The first thing on my mind as always is safety. This may be unreasonable, but the number of less experienced shooters and the new guy in that squad made me feel more responsible for them and more cautious overall.

    I like the shooter this happened to. I didn't want to do it. I'm not happy about it. I hope he comes back and doesn't think that I was just trying to be an a$$hole. All I can say is that I honestly did what I felt was right at the time to ensure the safety and "comfort" of the squad.

    The good news is that no one was hurt and I have a better understanding of 10.4.9 now.

    It's times like these I want to join the guys over in the "I don't want to RO" thread.

    Tough one. It sounds like it worked out the way it needed to for that day.

    Yes it was tough and I'm glad kevin c was there. Thanks kevin c.

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