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+1 as well. I did a similar thing and called to change my order. Brian was very accomodating! Thanks Brian!

Actually I bought a bunch of clear 5' tubes with the same dimensions as the stock tube. It holds about 70 .45 shells. I have 5 of them so I kind of use them like gun magazines. Load all of 'em up then then just replace them when one is empty. Cheap bastard? Yes. I bought the press w/o a casefeeder on craigslist but it was brand new. I hope to afford the feeder some day, but it gets the job done for now. Just go for it. I like the extra tube idea... Kind of like having extra primer tubes! I'll have to look for them at the local hardware store..

Done deal! Ordered the 650 yesterday w/out the casefeeder. I'll let you know how it goes w/out it AND how long it is before I add one! Thanks for all the help.

Several available but they are all about 45 minutes away for me...

Welcome from Charleston.

I like that idea... Already accused of buying everything I want and leaving nothing for them to get me...

I plan on adding the casefeeder later. However: 1. It does auto index whether it is truly a speed advantage or not. 2. It is upgradeable in the future 3. I don't have to keep my head moving from the left side to the right side of the press. 4. I don't have to take my hand off the handle for 20 rounds at a time. 5. After 20 rounds, I can do a powder level check, primer level check, quality check and then just drop another 20 in the tube. 6. It might also look better to a spouse not to drop another 200 plus on the initial outlay. Or maybe it might look better to me! I am pretty sure about I will have one before 2011... Thanks to all

If the scale has a .1 grain error and you are measuring 4.2 grains, you may be getting 4.1 to 4.3 and could be in error .1 either way. If the scale has a .1 grain error and you are measuring 16.8 grains, you may be getting 15.8 t0 17.8 and could be in error .1 BUT... that would only be 1/4 the error at 4.2 grains. (.025 x 4 cases equal the .1 grain) I don't know if that made sense to you or not? Measuring 10 cases at 42 grains would get you down to .01 error. This is all assuming your powder drop is dropping equally each time..

I've heard it depends on shell size but approximately 20 45acp.

I am seriously considering a 650 w/out a casefeeder in the next few months. I do plan on adding it later. I don't mind stopping every 20 or so rounds to top it off and check what is going on. I have to stop every 100 anyway to top off the primers.. I have only used a friends Square Deal so far but don't want to have to trade up in the future. I like to buy once. I still have tools over 30 years old and take care of my stuff. I'm only loading 45 acp in the foreseeable future. I'm also one of those guys who reads manuals and loves to tinker with stuff so I think I will be alright. As a matter of fact, I've already downloaded manuals for all three Dillon presses and read them online. Did anyone ever use the 650 w/out a casefeeder and have any suggestions?

I'm sure washing up with any soap is better than none but how important is it to have the D-lead soap and wipes? Do you need special laundry detergent as well? Thanks

I see the Montana Gold is a CMJ vs FMJ so maybe that is worth something as it should have less leading. I'm waiting on my Precision Delta to arrive now. There was a significant cost difference for me in 45 acp. I'll be following this as well.

Thanks, I appreciate the info and I definitely want to support Brian who supports us with this forum and info.

Hello, I am getting close to ordering my first reloading equipment from brianenos.com and wonder if there is ever a time when discounts are offered? I know black friday is coming and I plan on buying before Christmas.. I am always a bargain shopper but already know where my Dillon is coming from! Thanks

I'm corporate so I don't have a plane of my own. I just fly the boss around! I used to instruct and have time in a lot of single engine piston and several twin engine piston. Now it is mostly jets and don't spill the coffee stuff. Still a lot of fun and you can't beat the view from the office! (unless it is one of those nasty thunderstorm days!) I am enjoying the site and learning a lot...

Thanks Lee, I hope to see you at the next event! Billy

I can see where graphing would be very helpful. It was a starting place for me. It also seems that the 4.2 loads are more consistant. ie a spread of only around 20 fps from slowest to fastest whereas the weaker 4.0 loads had a spread of around 50 fps. 700 to 750 seems like a lot of variance while 730 to 750 not so much.. That was my original question that I did not word very clearly. What would the normal spread in velocity be for a given load of 45 acp?

Just another new guy from Charleston, SC. I'm a pilot and an older guy in my 40's. I recently got interested in IPSC and have shot at a couple local matches. That got me interested in loading to a specific power factor. I have a friend who mentored me and allowed me to try out his Square deal press. Now I'm spoiled and drooling over Dillon presses at Brian's store and looking at the nice setups on Brian's forum. Great forum and info here! Oh, here is a thread I started yesterday. http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=115640

Hello, I'm new to reloading and new to shooting IPSC. With a friends help and assistance, I loaded up some 230 grain LRN (Home cast) bullets and WST powder. I've started with two different loads (4.0 and 4.2 grains). I was suprised at the differnce in velocity. What is the normal amount of change in velocity between rounds of the same load? I will have to start over once my gun gets back from Colt as I have been trying them with my short barrel Kimber 2.75 but am enjoying the experience and learning curve. The 4.0 loads are getting anywhere from 605 to 658. Kimber 2.75 barrel The 4.0 loads are getting anywhere from 685 to 725. Colt 5" barrel The 4.2 laods are getting anywhere from 673 to 696. Kimber 2.75 barrel The 4.2 loads are getting anywhere from 767 to 787. Colt 5" barrel Thanks.