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My RO/Dennis is such a good guy! He asked me if I had engaged them and because I am a little new he was willing to give me the benefit of the doubt, but I NEVER even knew the target was there.....

Thanks Jack! This is such a great sport....

I really like this one Corey! Thanks!

...which is what EVERYone should be doing. There are always going to be a couple of prima donna's that feal they don't have to paste/paint/reset steel. If you're not shooting or reloading you should be scoring, ro'ing, or pasting....period. Preaching to the Choir guys..... Always try and do more than my share of taping/helping and such. This particular week was one of those where I was drawn early. The first three stages of the day I was 3rd, 4th and 1st out of 14 shooters, and I am a little slow in getting my game plan anyway...

For the second time in a row down in Richmond Ca. I had a failure to engage.... Richmond puts on a great match with some very complex stages (for me as a beginner) and I seem to continue to not see every target. I asked my friend Kevin C for a better way and he gave me what I am sure is obvious to most other shooters... Count the rounds required to complete the stage and make sure the targets you see add up to the right number. As a person who has HATED math all his life, I avoid most every situation that I have to use math (then why shoot production I ask myself?). On the very next stage I started to apply this new found wisdom and low and behold, I couldn't find a target.. The required rounds were 23 and I could only find 21 rounds to shoot at the targets I had found so far, so I knew there was a target or targets out there that I had not seen as of yet. I finally found it and I am confident I would have had another FTE had I not used the round count method.... So others may learn and thanks Kevin!

Understood and thanks! I double plugged for the match, but I can't recall whether I was flinching or not. I will continue the drills you suggested at the beginning of this thread as part of my normal live fire regimen. Thanks Kyle!

Thank you for the clarification Flex! Both are going to be a challenge I can tell... I did call an off shot yesterday which made me very happy! It was a C and I quickly followed it up with another C... Hey at least I called a shot..

I went out to the range to work on my flinch and shot calling and had some interesting results. I double plugged and relaxed my jaw and I did see the sights rise better. I worked all week long on my pre-shot routine of keeping my jaw relaxed and to breath through my mouth and hopefully I can apply this in Sunday's match. Calling the shots is another story... I am a pretty confident shooter and I am confident in my ability to learn, and I have almost NO confidence I am going to be able to learn to call my shots... Let alone remember them... I call my wife/kids "Honey" because I CAN'T remember their names let alone a shot that happened at the beginning of a target LET ALONE A STAGE..... I did the paint brush drill you were talking about and low and behold I was able to call every shot.... This did give me a little hope, but when I went back my normal drills, I wasn't able to call my shots. Although I did call two very poor shots.. I finished the session with the paint brush drill as well and was again able to call the shots. I will keep at it, but I am hoping I have an "Ah Ha" moment because I just don't seem to get it! Thank you again for sharing your knowledge! Kent

I have been searching for days on a Dawson front sight height recommendation for the G22 Warren Tactical rear/Dawson front and I can't seem to find one.... Do you have a thought on the front sight height? Thanks!

Does anyone have a front sight height recommendation for the Warren Tactical rears? Looking at Dawson fronts .105 wide, I just need a height and whether it is POI or 6 O'clock hold. Any help appreciated!

Great pic thanks! Can I ask what your front sight height is? Is it POI or 6 O'Clock hold? I have a friend who is looking for his G22. I will probably end up with this set up on my G35 also.

Sorry double iPhone post! I am very happy with my Billy Bullets. Hit a 6x10" steel strip at 40 yards 6 out of 10 times free hand the other day with them. The misses were close. No lead build up, just some moly build up in barrel. This was out of my G35. Also use them in my G21. Rudy is great to work with also FYI. Prices are good. Good luck!

I am very happy with my Billy Bullets. Hit a 6x10" steel strip at 40 yards 6 out of 10 times free hand the other day with them. The misses were close. No lead build up, just some moly build up in barrel. This was out of my G35. Also use them in my G21. Rudy is great to work with also FYI. Prices are good. Good luck!

I know this is an old post, but I am glad I found it as yesterday's live fire practice confirmed to me what I had suspected for a long time, I flinch.... For some reason my G35 doesn't go into slide lock (another story... and I don't always have a good count in my head as to how many rounds I have let go and invariably I will flinch low and to the left when it runs dry. I haven't given it too much thought because in my matches I am getting good hits except for in the later stages of the match (indicator?) when things start to break down. Yesterday with a friends help, I was trying to figure out how to call my shots and I swear they were hitting dead center of the freshly painted plates on the plate rack.... I would call the shot dead center because that is the last vision I had of the sights when I triggered the shot. Almost everything was a 7 o'clock hit on the plate... Ugh! I will start this regimen and see if I can get a handle on one; understanding and mastering the calling of shots and the fixing of what I believe to be a flinch. Thanks again for this great info!

I am guessing that we would continue to strive for a balanced grip until it naturally came back into alignment when we have opened our eyes? Rather than adjusting the left hand because we experienced X result or the right hand because of Y result for example? Exactly. If "it" [our mind] knows the goal, and sees what is happening instead, "it" will figure out how to get to the goal more quickly, if we let it. If we try to fix it with the conscious mind, we usually end up complicating the the solution. be Thanks Brian! Tried it at the range today and 9 of the 10 shots with eyes closed indexed back onto the original aiming point which made me very happy. The second time was not as good as only 5 of the 10 came back. I then made what seemed like a natural progression to 2 shots with my eyes closed... All my shots were 4-6 inches apart... Not sure what to make of that, but grip balance will be worked on a lot in the next month. Thanks again!

I am guessing that we would continue to strive for a balanced grip until it naturally came back into alignment when we have opened our eyes? Rather than adjusting the left hand because we experienced X result or the right hand because of Y result for example?

This drill is a ton o fun isn't it! I am having so much fun, I am afraid to move on to #2.... Did you see Flexmoney's thoughts on how he transitions? Good stuff! Good shooting...

Thanks Brian! This is the most fun I have had in a long time.... Flex, While doing dryfire Transition Drill #1 tonight, I noticed something that I hadn't identified before. I have noticed that sometimes it flowed and sometimes it didn't and I wanted to know why. What I found was that as my eyes transitioned and locked on to the next target and the sights/gun followed closely behind, the movement of the sights (swinging into view from the left) caught my eyes or more specifically my left eye I suspect, drawing my vision off of my target and back on to the moving object/sights. It seemed to help when I focused more on the target and let the sights swing into the slot or line that my eyes were focused on therefore bringing the sights into a perfect focus on the target. At that point it just seems to flow again.... Fun practice!

Definitely. (Monty Python voice)... Wait for it! Independent of time, then there is no thought, because thought is time, and time is thought. In the active voice, your first sentence nails it - Visual patience is not based in time but rather in mindset. be After almost 7 days of be transition #1 dryfire drills in my garage doing it the way Brian and Flex suggested, I was able to get to the range. At first in my garage,I was painfully slow but I pressed on and within a short amount of time, I was going as fast the proper way as I was flashing through the dryfire drill without hardly seeing my sights at all! I went out to the range today and put it to the test... After two decent runs through, but still leaning to my old ways, I finally settled down to what I had been practicing in my garage and WHAT a difference! "The mindset" "Anchoring thought" as I understand it is to focus on the goal of flash your eyes to the next target and drive the gun to your target with a perfect sight picture and repeat. The result for me was that again "time" disappeared and was not a factor and my hits were tighter and low and behold 3/4 of a second dropped off of my best previous time.... As a beginning shooter I plan on building my foundation on this principle for a long time. Thanks again guys!

+1 on this!

You are wise beyond your years Flex!

Definitely. (Monty Python voice)... Wait for it! Independent of time, then there is no thought, because thought is time, and time is thought. In the active voice, your first sentence nails it - Visual patience is not based in time but rather in mindset. be It really scares me that I am beginning to think that I am beginning to understand this thread..... Now I am going to have to choose between spending money on bullets or therapy.....

Flex, I believe I saw a glimpse of this on Sunday. For three stages I was "See More" and it did not seem to be based in time but in application and mindset or as I call it, my one shot thought. I fell back into old habits on stages 3 and 4, but stages 5, 1 and 2 were on another level for me. I am still unclassified but I suspect I am a good D shooter, and out of 86 shooters I finished stage 2 30th overall and I had a "See Less" moment on the stage when I failed to engage a tucked away plate or it might have been 4 to 5 higher. My stage points were high and my time was better than many A and B shooters and TIME WAS NEVER A FACTOR it just was what it was, which to me solidifies your point for lack of a better term. Drills this week and for the next year will be focused on this concept "See More". Thanks again for your time on this and everything else you have helped on!

Sargenv it was great meeting you at the 4/3/11 Richmond match! I shot with the moly/Solo 1000 combo for the first time yesterday and I really liked it! I shot production and the rounds I shot were in the 150pf range. I am going to try and get it down a little and get my G35 to run as well as it did at the 150pf mark. Are you loading for the weather? I do normally load a day or two before the match. Great match yesterday and it is a great club you guys have in Richmond! Kent

Having played golf at a fairly high level, golfers for the most part understand you have one swing thought for the day and if you are smart ONE only. I am heading out to the match in a few and I am taking my ONE match thought with me "SEE MORE" Having the patience to SEE MORE... Thanks again Flex!