ScottyPotty
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I'm not trying to be a dick but the way some people talk about dillon on here you would think that dillons never have a problem. So that isn't true I guess? Anyone care to shed some light here?
Its a 90's machine so its anywhere from 11-21 years old. Things break and parts wear out, thats when the lifetime warranty pays for its self. If he post pics of when it comes back it be like a brand new machine, you will hardly be able to tell it from new.
Yes the Dillon fan boys can get vocal, and they sometimes make it seem like their blue machines are perfect - there not, but they are darn good machines that just turn out rounds like crazy.
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I had a LM for a few years and when I sold it, I was happy to see it go. It would work for a while, 50-100 rounds then you would have to readjust something. then adjust it again, then again.......at the end I was priming everything by hand then using the press to load the ammo, then I started having all kinds of index problems, I got sick of the issues and just sold it and quit reloading for a while. when I got the Dillon 650 I was amazed that once adjusted it stayed there and I could crank out 1000's of rounds without having to touch anything.
If you want to save some money and start cranking out ammo the Lee classic turret press is a good way to start out reloading. I have set up on my bench between my RCBS single stage and 650.
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I run with the springs only, so much nicer without all that clutter. Ive been loading 223 so no chance of double charge....
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How about a lip on top of the powder alarm to keep it in place when placed upsidedown on powder measure
650 Up grades:
Case activated priming - no primers advancing without a case present. Both the Lee loadmaster and the LNL have this feature.
The spent primer catch should be up graded.
The snapping of the shell plate as it enters into position could be smoothed out
finger adjustment or round knobs on the charge bars
come up with a way to shut off the case feed tube down on the press. I currently use a piece of bent hanger wire to hold closed the spring operated gate (that when open drops a new case into the press)
cheaper caliber conversions
power measurer safety rod and linkage needs improved - I took off mine and just use springs.
switching between small and large primers takes too long - need to purchase additional parts to make it go quick.
use more of the same size nuts/bolts so you dont need 50 different size wrenches or hex keys.
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Well, as an engineer myself, I have to tip my hat to Lee...I have to say that Lee is unique in its design, perhaps more so than Dillon.
Like using a ceiling fan chain to actuate the powder measure? Yeah, that's a real unique innovation. But I don't spend my money with companies that cheap-out.
I got rid of that toilet bowl chain and put a spring on it - worked much better! I like the idea of the case feeder on the LM cheap and works so so, but once you get past the cost of the dillon case feeder it is very very nice and worth the money.
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I have to agree! He has done way more for the sport than we could ever repay!
Rex
BTW, my 650 should be here soon!!!
Nice choice!
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How difficult is it to load rifle on 550, as far as seeing in the case? Thats what is stopping me from the 550 instead of the 650. 550 is more in line of my volume and then some.
I wanted a 550 because it would put out plenty of rounds for my shooting. But the lack of case feed for rifle was what pushed me to the 650. All that prep work on 223 and then just be able to dump it into a hopper and go to town was/is great. the extra hole is also nice to run the powder check since its so hard to see the powder in a 223 case.
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I bought a used 650 and it was quite a bit of set up involved before its ready to rock and roll. I was new to Dillon but not a new reloader, you are fighting the press and also fighting a learning curve of getting used to reloading. While your 650 is out, get a reloading manual and do a lot of reading. But when you get things set up right it cranks out ammo like crazy.
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Gempro 500
http://www.myweigh.com/gempro.html
I bought this for the 0.05gr precision and was not disappointed. It does eat batteries so I just use the AC adapter.
+1 I got mine off ebay for $55.00
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Yes, it works fine - probably better then on a progressive press. Ive done about 5K on the single stage.
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I have a real eye dominance problem, so shooting with both eyes open is really difficult unless I am using an optic (aimpoint or eotech). I have tried the tape over the eyeglass trick to train my one eye to be dominant, but it seems like it is left eye 60% / right eye %40%, just enough to mess with me while shooting. I end up squinting slightly to sharpen the focus on my left eye, but if you guys know of any eye dominance exercises that might help I would be grateful.
I would really like to be able to shoot with both eyes open, but maybe my brain isn't wired for it
i'm kind of in the same boat, slightly left eye dominant shooting right handed. Ive learned to move pistols more to the center left and also tilting my head over slightly to get a good sight picture with my left eye. Rifles I can use my right eye, no problems. shotguns I have problems with and usually end up shooting left handed.........
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Ive hit it plenty of times.......with a paint ball.
Thankfully Ive missed while shooting lead.
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For primary sights, I would not use flip ups or mount the front sight on the handguard...unless youwant to chase a wandering zero.
Needs to be fixed sights, front mounted on the barrel.
JMHO
JJ
This is the first time Ive ever head of this. Did this happen to you? Were you using a quality rail and sight?
Even a atandard issue M-16 has the front sight mounted on the barrel, for a reason.
I have never mounted primary sights on a handguard/rail, because a rail on a handguard can and will move in relation to the barrel, losing zero.
as for popups, thats more subjective, but I wouldn't use popups for primary sights. But thats just me.
jj
I agree, flip up's are for back up BUIS - but I dont see a quality rail (Daniel Defense, Larue) causing your zero to shift.
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PWS (Primary Weapons Systems) makes a really nice and effective comp, there about $100
I like PWS
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For primary sights, I would not use flip ups or mount the front sight on the handguard...unless youwant to chase a wandering zero.
Needs to be fixed sights, front mounted on the barrel.
JMHO
JJ
This is the first time Ive ever head of this. Did this happen to you? Were you using a quality rail and sight?
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I have been happy with my LMT 10.5
But I would get one of these:
LMT 10.5
Daniel Defence 10.3
BCM 10.5
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If money is not a problem - this would be a great rifle!
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Colt 6920
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I use both eyes most of the time - sometimes I do find my self with one eye closed.
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I ran this when I was loading 45..
Made marginal difference..
I'm reloading 40 now I get excellent seating without it..
I think it's a cure for a problem that doesn't exist.
Imho
Cheers
this has been my experience too.....YMMV
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If you think the Hornady Powder Cop is good, you should stop using it and get one of the RCBS Lockout Dies.
I have both! The powder cop is now sitting as a spare.
The Lockout Die works much better. It will save you without you having to look at it (as you have to with the Powder Cop). If you forget to look at it, it's useless!
With the Lockout Die, you don't have to remember to look at the die, so it's a lot safer.
Just my opinion, and yes I own both!
Once you learn not to double pump the press, you should never get a double charge. I've never had a squib load yet, but the Lockout Die will help me if I ever do.
Just trying to help!
any idea how it compares to the dillon powder check?
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I had some issues with one shot - enough that I stopped using it and haven't missed it.
Once you prime the brass its too late to tumble off the lube until after you load your rounds. After loading I throw my rounds in the tumbler for about 10mins to clean them up. check this out. http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=42&t=303242&page=1 they did tests with microscopes showing before and after tumbling and what happens to the powder.
If you already have corn cob stuck in your primed case then you should ether try to blow it out with an air gun (make sure you wear glasses...lol) or just leave it and shoot it out. I have read several reports of people doing tests to see if a corn cob/walnut in the flash hole made a difference at 100 yards. From their tests it made no difference in accuracy. To be fair they were not bench rest shooters shooting little tiny groups.
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Seat and crimp at the same time. It's not big deal.
Id probably go this way too. congrats on the 650 - I love mine!
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A hammer and punch. Good luck - they can be difficult. If its too hard take it to a gun smith - its usually on a few buck for them to beat them around.
Old vs New Powder Measure Test Results
in Dillon Precision Reloading Equipment
Posted · Edited by ScottyPotty
So a recent thread got me thinking about accuracy between the old spring style powder measure and the new "clunky" style powder measurer. So I decided to do a little testing on my own.
Here are the rules of my test.
1) Powder = BL-C2
2) Full hopper
3) 25 Test shots before starting recording weights
4) 2- Seconds pause on the down stroke - I found sometimes I stroked to fast and caused errors - something to think about when cranking out ammo.
5) checked my scale tare weight after each recording - wanted to make sure it returned to zero.
My scale is a min pro-100 with 0.05gn resolution
I did a total of 30 shots each way.
Test 1 - Old Spring Style Desired Weight = 26.40gn Actual 30 Shot Average 26.395gns .005 error
Test 2 - New Style Desired Weight = 26.40gn Actual 30 Shot Average 26.393gns .007error
It would be interesting to throw the max charges and min charge weights to see what happens.