zen_grasshopper
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Takes CZ 75 mags. The 17 round Mec-gars are flush fitting, the 19 round ones are the same mag with a plus 2 extension that is plastic and I believe makes the gun not fit the Production box.
Part number for the Mec-gars is MGCZ7217AFC.
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12 hours ago, vrwm said:
Great write up! I’m glad to see Shadow 2s run pretty much flawlessly with high counts . How have the slide stops been holding up? Have you had any issues with setting off primers running the 11.5 lbs hammer spring? I’ve been using the 13 lbs hammer spring and have had no problems, but wanted to see if I’d have any reliability issues with the 11.5 lbs. What height Dawson front sight have you been using?
No issues with any primers, I run CCI. I do have a 1050 which seats the primers nice and deep. Front sight is a .240” rear sight is a couple clicks from bottom. Slide stops are holding up fine, it is worn and had a flat spot. Photo from my Urban Grey framed gun.
8 hours ago, Red_Dot said:I run the gun pretty wet, I use Lucas as it was in a prize table bag. I shoot about 600-1000 rounds per practice so I would lube it up and go shoot, but never had to add lube during the session. I place it on the barrel, the lugs, in the peanut, between the and frame each side of the trigger bar. Also on the rails and a drop in the sear cage and the hammer and strut at the back of the hammer. The gun got filthy but stayed wet and ran. Example photo.
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29 minutes ago, yigal said:
what PF u shoot with the guns?
135 at Nats.
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Blade-tech, Red Hill Tactical, just get a good holster hanger like the BOSS or the Springer Precision
Mec-gar AFC 17rd mags, basepads from Shockbottle, Springer, Henning all good.
Cajun Gun Works and CZ Custom make springs and parts for the gun. Try a 13lb or 11.5lb mainspring, and if it pops your primers it will lighten the DA up nicely.
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43 minutes ago, ClangClang said:
Great write up and good data points, confirming what we already knew - CZs have short chambers and everyone should keep spare TRS on hand for the eventual breakage.
I will say that with the factory Shadow 2 TRS it is less of a concern as it works well.
35 minutes ago, Hi-Power Jack said:I recommend a backup gun, but why two backup guns ?
Last year, I only had 2 guns and right before a major my backup gun launched it's bushing out the front. I didn't like going to the match with only the one gun. So when I went to the Shadow 2, I decided that it wouldn't be a problem anymore.
5 minutes ago, magpulled said:Dude the urban grey finish is wore out, in a good way of course. With the dry fire you apparently are doing you better have made GM. Your probably the guy whose setting the bar on all those hhf’s
Just 91% M class. Getting closer!
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Three Shadow 2's, and my notes from using them all season. First two guns, the Urban Grey and Black (red grips) arrived in November of 2017 and the third (blue grips) arrived in February 2018. Previously I was shooting SP-01 Shadows and an Accu-Shadow. Biggest reason for the change was the new frame, this gun fits me very well especially with the Scale grips.
Load used all season was mixed range brass, CCI or Winchester primers, 1.115" OAL, 3.8 grains of Titegroup and a 125gr RN Blue Bullet.
When new the triggers were decent, but the Urban Grey had some creep in SA. So I installed a Cajun Gun Works kit in it, and liked it so I did the same to the other 2 guns. This was the older kit with the T1 not T5 disconnector. All installs went easy, and I polished everything while doing the install. I used the 11.5lb mainspring and an 11lb recoil with the buffer. DA's are all just around 5.5lbs, and the SA is just under 3lbs and crisp. Weights were perfectly fine for me and the disconnector didn't need fitting and good enough for me. Dawson .090" front fiber, but I might switch them to .100" for this next season. I also pulled the Shadowline triggers out, and put in the "new" style 85C triggers.
Urban grey is my main dry-fire/practice gun. I don't track round count in each gun, but I shot just under 40k this year, and this gun got the brunt of it. I would say probably 20-25k as I used the red gripped gun for a couple weeks in practice. Countless dry-fire, trigger presses, reloads, table pickups, etc. Cleaned about 4 times this year, just hosed it out with brake cleaner and a bore snake through the bore. I would pull the extractor and clean that area as well.
One broken trigger return spring early in the season, it was the reduced power Cajun part and it was replaced with the factory "red" spring which is still running strong. The other two guns just kept the factory TRS. No other parts broken.
7 malfunctions which were all ammo related as I don't inspect my practice ammo, just load it up and shoot it. Each was a failure to go into battery, reducing my OAL to 1.09" should solve it as I was just too close to the rifling. I also had my first squib, and it was my fault, just knocked the bullet out of the barrel and went back to training. Nothing else was replaced, same recoil spring, same hammer spring and same buffer all season.
Practice/match back up gun. About 7k to 10k through it, some dry-fire, but somewhat limited compared to the UG gun. No malfunctions, no broken parts. Cleaned only before a major match, again knock out the chunks and blast it with brake cleaner and clean the extractor. No malfunctions.
Match gun. Approximately 5k 7k on it, generally only used for matches after I shot 2k through it when new. This gun got wiped out before each major as a half assed cleaning and re-lubed. 2 malfunctions, first at Wisconsin Sectional with a failure to go into battery. Reducing OAL will fixed it. The other was at Nationals on stage 5, grabbed the mag off the barrel and somehow angled it just right that the round started to come out of the magazine and when I loaded it in the gun it popped out and flipped over, entirely my fault.
Now that my off-season is here, they will all get fresh springs, stripped, cleaned and inspected. The backup and match gun will get new slide stops and the used ones will be used with the practice gun until the break or get mangled. As you can see the guns needed very little maintenance throughout the season.
Really can't go wrong with the Shadow 2 in my opinion!
Jon
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I highly recommend the stock gun and installing the kit from Cajun and doing the polishing yourself. I have three guns that I setup that way and have no complaints. The CZC guns are great, but if you can do the work yourself, why not?
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I know that one of Gütt’s Shadow 2’s had this issue at the Wisconsin Sectional. He told me later he just put in the extra power extractor spring and it was good to go.
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I have put over 25k on the one in my practice gun and finally replaced it out, but just because I had the gun apart and figured why not? No cracking, no issues, just looked used and dirty. They will last much longer than you think they will.
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On 9/8/2018 at 3:49 PM, sixsixnine said:
Dat power factor tho.
I can't imagine going that long without cleaning. That crud buildup would be festering in the back of my mind the entire time I'm shooting.
I'll usually field strip after shooting, and at the very least blow the guts out with aerosol cleaner before putting it in the safe.
That is just one of my practice guns. My match gun usually gets cleaned every 1k or so. The guns keep running so why spend time cleaning them when I could be shooting them.
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10 hours ago, wespac78 said:
Titegroup is filthy because you're not loading enough gunpowder into the shell for it to build up enough pressure to expand the case to the barrel and create a pressure seal. If you load a little more powder it will become a much cleaner shooting powder. Usually with my loads 125gr Blue Bullets, around 3.9gr TG it seals up and shoots pretty clean. And PF stays right around 130.
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Really? With 3.7 I am at 138pf, and 1080 fps with a SD of 6 or so. This seems like it would be pretty efficient, and if I up the charge I am over 140pf easy.
The bore isn't what is getting dirty it is the rest of the gun. Thick carbon and sludge after 5 to 10k. I don't clean guns often, but if I can find a cleaner powder that makes my life easier that is what I want.
Jon
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12 hours ago, CaliYeti said:
Sport Pistol is very very clean. After a match it barely has any residue around the muzzle and I just need to do a quick whipe down. I switched to it from N320 and it feels just as good and is as clean or cleaner than it.
It is a great powder for 9mm through the shadow 2. 3.7 gr makes 130 power factor with 124 Acme's for me.
2 hours ago, wtturn said:
Yes, it's noticably less smoky than TG.
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Thanks for the responses. Said the heck with it and ordered 32 pounds of Sport Pistol for the future.
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125gr RN Blue Bullet
3.7gr Titegroup
1.110” OAL
CCI primer
It is dirty but goes bang and hits what I aim at.
On 7/27/2018 at 10:44 AM, wtturn said:BBI 125gr
3.9gr Sport Pistol
1.120 OAL
Is the Sport Pistol pretty clean? What about smoke? I still have 16+ pounds of Titegroup, but it is some filthy stuff and may try a different powder in the future. Thanks.
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I shot ACME before Blues and loved the laser cut boxes, but the Post Office was never gentle with them and they would always arrive broken and the bullets busted out of the bags. I have only one of the laser cut large cases survive out of 8 or so.
Both are great bullets, but the Post Office is the problem not the packaging. With the Blues thick bags and cardboard, I have never had an issue. Tomorrow I am expecting another 4 cases of the 125gr RN.
Jon
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7 hours ago, americanbrosinarms said:
Spoke with them today they said probably 15 days till they get any.
Good to know. Thanks Chase.
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They shoot just fine. I have shot 100k plus out of CZ’s. They are cheap, and they shoot, what is not to like?
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Currently waiting for Mark 7 to ship my BulletSense. Says in stock but it has been several days since ordering, was hoping to have it by this weekend, but not looking good.
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Between the sear and the sear cage on the right side of the sear if looking at it from the rear of the cage.
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Just the two screws on the front, the elevation screw doesn’t need to come out. I use a brass or aluminum punch, and a hammer. Sight tools are great, but I am cheap. Might need to use a bit of heat to loosen the screws.
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They just keep multiplying.
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Just got my newest one in, with the 2018 SKU and it has the frame cut.
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You need the spacer.
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Also check to see if any of the hammer strut pin is still flush on both sides. They should be staked but if they move slightly they can move out and cause binding.
3 Shadow 2s after a season of shooting
in CZ
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@MemphisMechanic I bought a reamer and did both my Accu and Shadow, but when I got the 2’s I knew the reamer wouldn’t touch the nitride so I just loaded shorter. No real big deal, the load runs in all my guns and this length should give me plenty of room.