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If you can take out your lenses you are golden. Just be sure to pop off the right lens, RX in left. If you do it the other way it will exaggerate the problem you already have, (which could be fun experiment too I guess). Let us know how it goes.WHAT THE!!!!!popped the right lens out and started aiming from the draw with both eyes open. Deym sights are Crystal clear!!! THANKS A LOT DARK ONE! YOU'RE THE MAN! Awesome brother, that is great news! Happy to help. Now, it comes down to communicating this to your optometrist so you can get some lenses made up, since shooting with one lens may be frowned upon. You will most likely have some sort of prescription in your right lens, if anything, just to correct for any astigmatism you have there. You may even want to bring a "blue gun" into the office so you can take a sight picture while he rotates though some different options. Be sure to communicate your intentions over the phone. You should be able to find a sport friendly optometrist that will work with you. The end result should be even better than this test though since both eyes will have a dialed in and updated prescription . Good luck and good shooting!

If you can take out your lenses you are golden. Just be sure to pop off the right lens, RX in left. If you do it the other way it will exaggerate the problem you already have, (which could be fun experiment too I guess). Let us know how it goes.

Based on comments (1) and (2), I am going to say you are still left eye dominate even though you say you have trained your right eye to be dominant. My proof is that you still have to squint your left eye when looking at the sights. This makes sense given your prescription as well. You left eye is more near sighted than your right, meaning close objects, (like your sights), will be more in focus in your left eye than your right. Your brain will want to gather information from your left eye as a result, which is why you want to squint it to make it go away. Honestly, I think the best solution for your vision is to get RX glasses specific for shooting or closing your left eye. You are going to be battling this every time you shoot otherwise. You can do it, it will just be a hindrance to your shooting and slow you down. You should experiment with a good optometrist and disposable contacts until you get it "right". Your current RX glasses could be wrong now, which may be the cause of your headaches, so the first step should be to get that correct. After that, you should try experiment with slight adjustments specific to shooting. What do I mean? For instance, if you just correct the left eye, and leave the right eye slightly near sighted, you will most likely find it easier and faster to find the sights with your right eye since the sights will almost be in focus naturally with your right eye. Your sights will be very blurry to your left eye in comparison, so you you will not need to squint your left eye to turn it off. Conversely, your left eye will see a clearer crisper target due to the prescription, so the result will be a superimposed image where both the target and the sights are in focus AT THE SAME TIME, (or as near as they can be based on target distance). This technique is called mono-vision. I've experimented with it and I actually quite like it. It sounds like you are a good candidate. If so, you can turn this weakness into a strength and enjoy the benefits. Clear as mud?

I have been an outdoor athlete my whole life, racing on skis, bicycles and motorcycles. These are all things where vision of your surroundings (with both eyes) is very important. I theorize that as a result of that activity, neither eye is particularly dominant. Some people seem to have a dominant eye that is so dominant that their brain tunes out the other eye when focusing on sights and targets and stuff. I don't have that. I have very clear vision from both eyes, so if I focus on the sights, i see 2 very clear targets. If I focus on targets, I see 2 sets of very clear sights. It takes me a little bit to sort out this visual clutter and make sure i'm lining up the right sights with the right targets. It also makes it difficult to really focus on the sights because it's much easier to figure out which sights are the right ones, so if I focus on the targets, I have less trouble than if I focus on the sights and have to choose which targets are the right ones. After a year of shooting slowly, and reading brian enos' book, and researching alot here, and talking with a local master who simply closes his non-dominant eye when the buzzer goes off, and observing a GM at area 1 with a patch of scotch tape on his glasses, and noticing Brian's taped glasses on the cover of his book, I just put a 1/2 inch square piece of transparent scotch tape in the middle of my shooting glasses on the non-dominant eye. I find it much easier to really see the sights now, and things line up MUCH more quickly and the improvement in my results in the last 4 months has been pretty dramatic. Don't get hung up on worrying about whether it's 'better' or not to shoot with both eyes open. There seem to be big differences in the way people's vision is wired. Rest assured there are very very good shooters who either tape their glasses or close one eye. I agree. Everyone's vision and brains are different. The things you hear are usually tailored to the 'norm', and certainly don't apply to everyone in the same way. This is something everyone is going to have to figure out for themselves, and it will most likely involve trying a few different things. In the end it comes down to what makes you faster, not what is "right". Btw, your ambidextrous vision sounds very similar to how mine "was". I say was because I have been able to train my eyes to see what they need to and forget the other ghost images, so now I can shoot two eyes open with little issue. It sounds like you have invested a lot of time on this though, so the tape may be the best solution for you, which is fine.

That prescription doesn't make sense to me, would you mind elaborating? We may be using different numbers. Right or left handed shooter? just checked the prescription. it says 150 left and 100 right eye with astigmatism. right, handed shooter. I normally don't wear prescription lenses when shooting. the target boards were naturally blurred and the sights were crystal clear because I am nearsighted. noticed that I have headaches every time I shoot without rx lenses so i decided to wear them recently I'm going to assume you mean 1.50 left and 1.00 right. And if you are nearsighted, shouldn't those be negative values? So -1.50 and -1.00? (not trying to badger you, just want to make sure I understand you situation the best I can before giving any 'expert' advice)

That prescription doesn't make sense to me, would you mind elaborating? We may be using different numbers. Right or left handed shooter?

Here are the photos from Mike... https://www.dropbox.com/sc/uhd4r7ri69y2a28/gNqUZixaAs

Yes please.

A little off topic, but did you have him do 100, because he typically does 50. Curious where you hit at the closer ranges.

Whoever does, please report back to the rest of us.

Great thread, a lot of good information on what can be done to the Versa for competition. My question, are there any shops you can send your Versa to for a complete 'competition package'? (similar to what TTI and Salient are doing with Benellis). If so, who do you guys recommend? Hopefully this is enough on topic. Thanks in advance.

Phoenix Photography was one. Not all the pictures are up yet, but here is her facebook page and the MGM Ironman album respectively. Be sure to 'like' the page and give credit where you can. Thanks. Page https://www.facebook.com/pages/Phoenix-Photography MGM Ironman Album https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.169439829897032.1073741836.156500937857588&type=1

Travis, sorry if it came off as bitching, I'm just trying to figure out what is going on. Even if we could, I have no intention to swap prizes. What's done is done.

Exactly right. To give you an idea, we had a repeat shooter shoot it in 137. The people that this hurt complained and it got tossed. The bigger issue to me though, is the mess with the prize table. Not sure how it happened, and if or how you fix it at this point, but that is not how anyone wanted to finish up the weekend, for sure.

Before the suprise stage was thrown out I was 18th, after it was thrown out I moved to 19th, but I walked 24th. Not sure what is going on, but it appears we didn't walk in the order we finished.

Doug, they threw out the surprise stage, but Practice seems to show the golf cart stage missing. Confusing for sure. I understand why they did it, but throwing that stage out cost me 9 spots.

Final yardages on long range rifle steel? Anyone anyone?

How many spinners will be engaged with shot? Trying to figure out how much heavy shot loads to bring.

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I counted at least 14 of the top 30 3GN Pro shooters at the MG Nationals. BTW, this years match was full with a waiting list. Doug Tarheel was that same weekend, which I know a few top guys went to.

Squad 4 has a ton to photos. What format and size, how to deliever them, etc?

+1 The link was working midday yesterday, but it is no go now.

So if we show up with 125 ammo, we should be good on steel?

I just wanted to encourage everyone to email all the sponsors with and email of appreciation. This was the first time I've taken the time to do so, and I have been very suprised how many of them have returned emails with sincere appreciation and suprise that a shooter took the time to thank them personally. To those of you pressed for time, copy the emails from the list provided, paste them into the BCC field, and write a generic message. It really will go a long way.

Much appreciated Mark, it is always nice to see how you do against the open guys.