Bill Sahlberg
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Cleanest load and most accurate I have been shooting this load for 10 years.
Using 38 Colt Short with 130 gr Montana Gold 356 RN (I know, I know its for 38 Super)
Fed Sm Primer, Starline Brass, 4.6 gr Universal Clays at 1.100" OAL
I have 100K+ down the pipe and my 627 is still 100% reliable and accurate!
I use to shoot PPC with the local PD and this is almost as accurate at
50 yds as my lead 148 gr HBWC in 38 Special with 2.8 gr of 231
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RePete has the load I have shot since 1974...with my Ron Powers Model 65 GrandMaster!
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Barf, another Ruger boat anchor that will never have any of my competition hopes
and I have shot in Revolver Division since 1975.........
Taurus started the 8 shot 357 Revo craze in 1995 but S&W perfected it in 1997........
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Looks like a modified PPC gun for Bianchi style shooting.
The value depends on who built it & how bad someone wants it.
Send the pix to Powers Custom, they may be able to help you
Below is a pix of my Powers GrandMaster made in 1979
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Please remember using PayPal is giving the anti-gun company profits.....I am certain that BE doers not approve of anyone on this Forum using PayPal......
From PayPal website "We don’t allow PayPal members to buy or sell any kind of firearm, whether it’s in working order or not. The same goes for certain firearm parts and ammunition."
For example, using PayPal, you can’t buy or sell:- Any firearm, including rifles, shotguns, and handguns, whether they’re for sport and recreation, collectibles, or curio or relic firearms.
- Firearm parts, including but not limited to receivers and frames, silencers, and kits designed to modify guns so that they fire automatically. High capacity magazines, multi-burst trigger activators, and camouflaging firearm containers are other items in this category.
- Ammunition, including propellants like gunpowder or blank ammunition; ammunition or cartridge cases; and primers, bullets, or propellant powder designed for any firearm.
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BJ, thanks for speaking up. The horses mouth is always better to listen to than the horses ass :-)
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I have a 22-250 Rem competition (55106) seating die with the micrometer top end. I am wondering if it can also be used to seat my 223 ammo to the proper OAL since the taper crimp is the last stage?
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Yes, I will continue to use this same holster since it does have both a good locking position for 3 Gun running as well as a quick draw mode for pistol competitions...
Over 200 matches and 75+ of them 3 Gun / MultiGun without a spill, why change something that works?
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I was DQ'd for spilling my pistol, it was a good call at the time as I thought that I had brushed the pistol on a wall causing the gun to fall out. I took it like a man (except for a few tears :-)
When I got back home and watched the Go-Pro footage I made a YouTube video so that others could learn from my mistake. However, what I found was at 12 seconds the RO accidentally unlocked my holster, thinking he was helping me, and at 41 seconds where the gun spills and I am still 3-4 feet away from the wall.
Moral of the story, ROs need to keep their distance and never touch a competitors equipment without competitors express permission. This was not intentional by this RO but I am still out 4 days of lodging, gas, food, and Match expenses of $500+
BTW, this was the best of the NWMGC matches, in Stage design, food, prizes, super fast scoring, and Match Administration.
I plan to be back next year even if both Doug and Scott offend me :-)
I just started reading this thread after seeing a post in another thread. Dude, you got screwed! You're taking it well and I'm glad you're planning to go back. But that RO, WHILE HAVING THE BEST OF INTENTIONS, apparently thought you were going to knock your gun out. It sure looked liked there may have been a problem coming and he injected himself into it.
I can see myself making the same mistake and touching someones equipment. Lesson learned! DON"T TOUCH!
Thanks for sharing the video. We can all learn from this, us viewers, the RO and you most of all from the great expense lost.
BTW, what holster were you using?
Steve
Steve,
I was not screwed whatsoever as I had accepted the DQ because my gun was laying on the ground and fell out of my holster. I had told the RM that I thought that I had brushed the wall with my pistol in order to make it spill. I did not see this video until I was home and reviewed all the stages that we had shot earlier.
What I am hoping that comes of this video is that even a seasoned RO needs to keep his/her distance unless asked for help.
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This is a Ernie Hill Jet Holster and it just needs a slight push down to unlock it. The RO was not trying to unlock my pistol but that is clearly visible as you watch 11-13 seconds in slow motion.
I posted this video not to malign the Match or RO's, just so that all can see why an RO is not suppose to touch a competitor nor his equipment unless asked.
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I was DQ'd for spilling my pistol, it was a good call at the time as I thought that I had brushed the pistol on a wall causing the gun to fall out. I took it like a man (except for a few tears :-)
When I got back home and watched the Go-Pro footage I made a YouTube video so that others could learn from my mistake. However, what I found was at 12 seconds the RO accidentally unlocked my holster, thinking he was helping me, and at 41 seconds where the gun spills and I am still 3-4 feet away from the wall.
Moral of the story, ROs need to keep their distance and never touch a competitors equipment without competitors express permission. This was not intentional by this RO but I am still out 4 days of lodging, gas, food, and Match expenses of $500+
BTW, this was the best of the NWMGC matches, in Stage design, food, prizes, super fast scoring, and Match Administration.
I plan to be back next year even if both Doug and Scott offend me :-)
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Today began the 2013 Northwest Multigun Challenge
Day 1 is in the books with great weather, great stages, and great people that we only see once (or twice) a year.... Squad 9 is awesome!
Many thanks to Doug and Scott as well as the 30 hard working ROs, the score-mistress Brenda (Scott's wife) and all the Match Sponsors who contributed so much in products and support. -
Looks like another great Match, thanks Doug and Scott for all your time, blood, sweat, and tears (both past, present, and yet to come :-)
Time Plus scoring makes both ROing and scoring so much easier! 1 alpha or 2 anywhere neutralizes the paper targets....GR8!
(BTW, no mulligans but can I pay for some 2 shot alpha targets and use them elsewhere / how much / how many :-)
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Knowing that I will screw the pooch on one stage, I would gladly pay beforehand for a "Mulligan"..... if one has a stage with a catastrophic failure, this is where the mulligan would be nice to have. I seriously doubt that the Top Shooters would use it unless this happened.
Hearing back from those who have run these, they say there is no troubles, so what is there to lose in trying it? If you don't like it, don't buy it!
(the only problem I see is that I can screw up several stages and being able to choose which stage might be hard, can I buy 3 or 4 :-)
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Pan Pacific in Southern California use to make these too for the S&W 627 and Taurus 608. Neat people and the cost per 100 was really good. I still have most of mine from 1998. BE member Mike Gurule was the one who turned me onto them, I think he is now in AZ.....
Posted 23 December 2008 - 09:57 AM
I bought 3 of the first run of S&W 627s at the 1997 Shot Show. These were already cut for full moon clips to compete against the Taurus 608 that was the first 8 shot 357 mfg and they came out in late 1995 and retailed for $329. Gunsmith Mike Gurule' of The Old Gun Shoppe in So CA would machine the cylinder and had Pan Pacific make full moon clips for the 608.
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ROBAR is still in business........http://www.robarguns.com/ has done several of my guns and do a great job!
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All of Team Montana Gold appreciates the extra work that Montana Gold does to both sponsor 20+ shooters but also the 100s of Matches that are also sponsored by their generosity as this is their main source of advertising......and they have done this for 20+ years. Thank you Norm & Jolene! I would further suggest the spokesman behind Babaganoosh, come up to Kalispell, MT and show Norm & Jolene just how his buddy can make bullets for $70/1000, then duplicate that over the next several million bullets being made in the coming month. While he is there, lets also give him Jolene's office for a day trying to respond to phones, faxes, and emails for a week to see why they seem so slow. Bill & Adam Sahlberg, Montana Gold sponsored shooters for 15+ years
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From Jolene 15 minutes ago....
we are just catching up still from january and the obama thing..sorry
page was to be new updated 8th but tech is behind on things.
no phones orders ,just mail it or wait online..
tryng to build inventory but hard with it all still going out as soon as we get it...
j
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This also happened to me with a 627 and it was the cylinder timing hand that protruded .0005" too much.
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I think that the white target
board background is best.......
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Jesse,
I beleive you can but I would "block" the mag to hold ONLY 20!
I have used and actual wood block under the mag (clipped to length) spring.
That's beyond my level of gun smithing abilities.
Jesse, just watch the inspection holes on your Higher Capacity magazine and stop at 20, these holes are there for a reason :-)
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Jesse,
I beleive you can but I would "block" the mag to hold ONLY 20!
I have used and actual wood block under the mag (clipped to length) spring.
Higher Capacity magazines have an inspection hole at 10-20 & 30 just for this reason......
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Here is an updated list and links to the sponsors.
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Doug and NWMG RO's and support Staff,
I just got home from shooting with the RO's. Just wanted to say thank you for all of your hard work putting on a great match. While our squad (Squad 16) had some challenges getting the kinks out of a couple stages the first day, we were able to knock out the other 7 stages with time to spare. Great staff, great stages, fun all around!!
Thanks again,
Steve
Great Match and thanks to these two who spent their time organizing, designing these stages, and making this match happen.....take a bow gents!
These two make a great couple team!!! The match, RO's, stages, scoring were excellent! Thanks again everyone!!!
Bill thanks again for hand delivery of that much needed high cap mag.
Jesse,
Congrats on the win! Now you can tell everyone that your Higher Capacity magazine helped you win by 1.25 points :-)
Seriously though......congratulations!
Bill Sahlberg
Higher Capacity
38 SUPER LOAD DATA
in Open Pistols
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My Caspian 38 Supers
8.0 gr Longshot, CCI Primer, MONTANA GOLD 130 gr RN .356 at 1.250" oal + 1330 fps
Soft shooting and works my 4 port comp at a comfortable 173 PF at 2500 ft
11 lb recoil spring