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    Cylinder for 38S on a 929

    in Revolver Forum

    Posted

    If your cylinder is shorter you will have excessive loss of speed due to the cylinder being greater than the Factory .0006"...

     

    We tried this in the 1970s with our PPC 38 Specials machining the cylinders shorter so that the 148 gr HBWC would almost be flush and have less bullet jump to the forcing cone making better accuracy.

     

    It didn't work  as we also had to turn down the 6" barrels,20210806_111909.thumb.jpg.ca8bd969ee748619b410b280c19ee026.jpg rethreading them to screw in further and keeping that .0006" gap.

    327/627 and the .38 Super

    in Revolver Forum

    Posted

    On 2/6/2024 at 2:46 PM, Makicjf said:

    Awesome.  If I can't find the Brownells moon clips, do standard 38 super/ 9mm fit a 627 cylinder?

    Thanks!

    Jason

    Here is the parts number from Brownell's. I bought these a few years ago...20230526_071308.thumb.jpg.43607d8631ee2b5dea4ef2c00b99f392.jpg

    327/627 and the .38 Super

    in Revolver Forum

    Posted

    23 hours ago, DukeSoprano said:

    I have a 627 in 38 Super and TK  Smith & Wesson 929 9mm OEM Moon Clips STD B/S, work perfectly with almost all brands of brass.

     

    I have a totes full of brass and don't even sort it, sometimes I get a round that is too loose and I just toss into a box to shoot out of my 1911s

    I always get my own brass back since its attached to the full moon clips. I have reloaded the 38 Colt short 25+ times with a small amount of split cases...

    327/627 and the .38 Super

    in Revolver Forum

    Posted

    On 2/6/2024 at 4:02 PM, gargoil66 said:

    OK:

     

    I tried Bill's advice of using an undersized die for .38 Super and that will work except that the moon clips for the Super are too thick for the 627-5.  Cylinder won't close.  So I tried .38 Super Comp brass which is dimensionally smaller than standard .38 Super +P.  Problem was the moon clips that fit .38 Super are way too big for the Super Comp.  The Super Comp brass will fall out of the moon clip.

     

    So I sent the cylinder of my V Comp to TK and they reamed it out for .38 Super.  Kind of a pisser because I scored a 625-4 and called TK to cancel about one day too late.  So now I have two revolvers chambered for Super.  The Super is bigger than .38 Special or its various cousins so when you shoot a .38 Spl in a Super chamber, the base of the brass bulges out to an extent that about half of them won't size down enough to easily go into a .38 Spl chamber anymore.

     

    If you want your cylinder opened up to Super, do yourself a favor and send it to TK.  You will have it back in a week and it will be perfect.  Easiest and in the long run least expensive way of turning a .38 Spl into a .38 Super.

     

    I think my big issue with .38 Super is the moon clips.  I have Starline and RP .38 Super brass and Starline .38 Super Comp brass.  Both the Starline and RP .38 Super seem to have a good number of pieces that are extremely hard to seat into the TK moon clips I have.  And I have checked the moon clips and found them to be just fine in size.  Its the brass that isn't as uniform as I would have expected.

     

    GG

    My Brownell's 38 Super full moon clips have fit all 5 of my 627s and cylinder closes as it should. Factory Starline 38 Super brass drops in with room to spare and ejects easily.

     

    Reloads must use the undersized 38 Super die that George makes at EGW. (Been doing this since 1997) However, I mainly shoot 38 Colt Short (with 3/4" of freebore) because of no advantage to shooting Major.20230526_071308.thumb.jpg.43607d8631ee2b5dea4ef2c00b99f392.jpg

    327/627 and the .38 Super

    in Revolver Forum

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Makicjf said:

    What is the process and do you have the specs on the die?

      I'd love to be able to load 38 super in my V-Comp for major pf.

      I'm a 38 super dumby.  Would 38 super comp brass be better for full power loads?  

      You've piqued my interest!

    Jason

    Just buy the EGW unersized 38 Super die and re-size all your loaded ammo -or- buy new 38 Super Starline brass and load it.

     

    Both fit in ALL my 627 cylinders and extract easily.

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    327/627 and the .38 Super

    in Revolver Forum

    Posted

    Reaming of your 627 cyinder is not necessary to shoot 38 Super 'IF' you size them properly with the EGW undersized die (-.0002) or use new Starline Brass.

     

    I have Brownells 38 Super Full Moon Clips that work great with my Starline brass.

    S&W warranty work for cylinder?

    in Revolver Forum

    Posted

    In the 1st year of shooting my 627, I sent back one of my early 627s when Tom Kelly was the there for a broken trigger pin. 

     

    The RA came right away and it only took 2 weeks to get it back. I still believe all warranty work requires the entire gun back.

    Bowling Pin Revo

    in Revolver Forum

    Posted · Edited by Bill Sahlberg
    Added info

    I shot pins for years! Best revolver is a S&W 625 45acp using 230 gr JHPs as they are powerful enough to take the pin clear off the table.

     

    Aim center of pin belly to get your widest & best hit 😉

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