High Lord Gomer
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Thanks to everyone that came out, shot, and helped yesterday. Dewey and I weren’t expecting it but it was really cool to have so many guys come from Savannah, Greenville, and even Ft. Benning.
Special thanks to Adam, Jesus, Tommy, Zollo, and Jack for helping setup on Friday, too. A really big thanks to Paul for not only coming out all day to setup Friday but also for spending all day Saturday ROing…and he didn’t even shoot.
Scores are posted to http://csrapistol.com, specifically: http://csrapistol.com/MultiGun/Pinetucky_3gun_112611.htm
We really appreciate everyone’s patience as we work through some of the lessons that must be learned the hard way. Among other things, I will never layout anything like Stage 4 again.
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Now I know that I'm leaving mine at home!
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Very cool, thank you!
Hmmm...I might want to shoot that SLP.
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Update…
Rifle: We are going to have 47 ¼ sized USPSA targets for rifle (plus the 3 8" plates at 100 yards). If you only shoot one shot on each paper rifle target (and get an A-zone hit), you theoretically could shoot all of the rifle with 50 rounds. Realistically, most people will shoot two at each rifle target and use 100 rounds minimum for rifle. I would still suggest planning on 120 or 140 rounds for rifle.
Shotgun: We will have 47 four inch square steel targets. If you don't miss, you could shoot the match with just two boxes of birdshot. I would still suggest bring at least 3.
Pistol: Still working on the pistol portions of the stages but bring at least 150 rounds.
We are planning to have many/more than a few people who do not already have rifles and shotguns suitable for this kind of match. We will have several for people to use, you just need to supply the ammo. For 12 gauge birdshot, get 7 ½ lead shot with a velocity listed at 1200 fps or better (my 1100 doesn't like to run with anything less). I have had good results with both Wincheter AA and Remington. For 20 gauge birdshot, pretty much any 7 ½ lead shot will work fine in Tommy's 1187 but I still like to get the higher velocity stuff.
For rifle, get brass cased .223 or 5.56 with no steel in the bullets. Robbie from Wheaton Arms (http://www.wheatonarms.com/) has been kind enough to offer to bring Lake City ammo at $7/box of 20 (which is a great price). Robbie will also be outfitting a couple of the shared guns with his compensating muzzlebrakes. I have to warn you, after seeing/trying one you *will* want one (which is why I'm buying two).
It would help us plan if anyone that will be borrowing a rifle and/or shotgun can let me (mnyland@TheMXTrack.com) or Dewey (dewey1_1@msn.com) know as soon as possible.
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No, all shotgun targets will be orange 4" square steel plates.
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Hola!
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Didn't realize he had done that. Too cool!
Congratulations, Lee!
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Very cool, look forward to seeing all of you. I'll even bring coffee and doughnuts.
Well, I'll bring coffee and doughnuts for myself. You didn't expect me to share, didja?!?
Charles...how far of a ride is that for ya?
We start at 9 and finish by 1. Most of then hit a local joint for lunch and bragging about how well we would have shot that stage if....
I've usually moved up a class or two by the time I leave Carolina Ale House.
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You should look up Mark when you get there. He'll be the scrawny little guy with half his shirt untucked and his zipper halfway down.
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What do you guys address when briefing a new shooter? I'd appreciate any new ideas.
Among other things...
it is a natural tendency for everyone, when they grab a gun, for their finger to immediately go to the trigger. That is one of the worst gun handling habits you can have and has to be corrected to shoot in formal competitions. If you are doing anything other than actively engaging targets your finger needs to be clearly outside the trigger guard...not just off the trigger, but clearly outside the trigger guard. If your're drawing, if you're reholstering, if you're reloading, if your're moving (and not whooting while moving), your finger needs to be clearly outside of the trigger guard. Again, if you're doing anything other than actively engaging a target, your finger needs to be clearly outside the trigger guard. This is one of those safety rules that is there for your protection, my protection, the protection of everyone else around, and the protection of our sport. Any violation of this is too serious to let you coninue for the day.Other common mistakes that can also result in a DQ are (I usually have an orange dummy gun that I use to demonstrate what people do wrong and how they should do it right):
- Breaking the 180. Be especially careful when reloading. If a stage has the potential for a reload while moving laterally, I recommend that right handed shooters reload while moving from left to right.
- Sweeping yourself while drawing or reholstering. Get a holster that is sufficiently rigid to retain its shape and practice reholstering with one hand.
- Everyone is aware of muzzle direction when firing the gun but too many people (that are new to the safety practices demanded during competition) relax and completely forgot about muzzle control when they finish firing. Too often I have seen people finish firing and then drop their hands straight down and even turn around when they finish. When you are finished, get your finger out of the trigger guard, keep the gun pointed downrange, and await instructions from the RP. They will be ....
- When transitioning from one side of a barricade to the other, finger out of the trigger guard and pull the weapon back toward you with the muzzle still pointed downrange. Make sure you are sufficiently far back away from the barricade that you don't catch it with the gun when you move. Do not point the gun up nor down as you swing from one side to the other...straight back, then move.
- Similar thing when you shoot through a port...in general you don't want to get into a port but rather shooot through it from a foot or two away. If you doo need to get into it make sure that you get your finger out of the trigger guard and pull the gun back to you and make sure that it is completely out of the port before you try to move to either side. If you don't, this can happen (demostrate here).
- Most important, be safe. Do not sacrifice any safety for speed. Safety first, accuracy second, speed...some other day.
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Welcome! What part of the ATL?
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I would rather run a new shooter who listened, was patient, and followed directions than many of the "experienced" shooters I have run that have no concept of muzzle control.
I tell new shooters: Safety first, accuracy second, speed...some other day.
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LOL! What a collection of groaners!
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We only have a 100 yard rifle range so for rifle we will have 3 8" plates at 100 yards and the rest will all be 1/4 size USPSA targets at 50 yards or less.
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Thank you, veterans!
From a citizen lucky enough to have been protected by you, your service is appreciated (and not just today, either).
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Rather than our normal handgun-only USPSA match in November we will be having a 3-Gun match at Pinetucky the Saturday after Thanksgiving, November 26th. Shooters should plan to arrive between 8:00 and 8:30, sign-up will be at 8:30, a safety briefing and COF review at 8:45, and shooting should start at 9:00. It is our plan to be done between 12:00 and 1:00.
While we do not yet have exact round counts, plan on bringing the following:
At least 75 rounds of bird shot, 7.5 or smaller
At least 150 rounds of rifle ammo (no steel or steel core ammo as we will be shooting some steel at 100 yards)
At least 150 rounds of pistol ammo
We will have one LONG COF on the rifle range, a short course also on the rifle range, and 2 medium courses on the pistol range. All courses of fire will have a 180 second time limit. Unless otherwise specified, all brown full-size USPSA targets will be engaged with handgun only, all white ¼ size USPSA targets will be engaged with rifle only, and all orange 4” square steel targets will be engaged with shotgun only.
There will only be 2 divisions: Tactical Optics and Tactical Irons. Unmagnified optics (dot-type) can run in the Tactical Irons division. There are no magazine capacity restrictions
Scoring will be done using IMGA rules. Basically, that means 1 A/B hit or 2 anywhere on the target. Shotgun steel must fall and rifle hits on the 100 yard swingers will be called by one of the ROs.
Because all of the stages are going to be rather involved, we will need everyone’s help resetting the stages. There will be no collecting of brass until after the match is over and all of the props are put away.
While we will not dictate shooting positions, it may be to your advantage to shoot from a prone or kneeling position at times. Dress accordingly.
For anyone that wants to come shoot this but does not have the necessary equipment, several of us will have equipment that we will share. Please email me, mnyland@themxtrack.com, or Dewey Hutson, dewey1_1@msn.com, to make arrangements.
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That must be the one mailing list I'm NOT on!
Yeah...Mark is on a lot of "Lists"!
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It is 2 hours East, but we are having a 3-gun match on Saturday the 26th at Pinetucky near Augusta, GA. If you can make that drive, I'll have all of the extra equipment necessary.
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Ah, but the interesting thing happens...
A Single Stack shooter declares Major, goes to chrono, and is found to be shooting minor. Then that shooter is free to load up to 10 rounds in a mag if he wishes.
A Single Stack shooter declares Major, is found to be shooting with 9 rounds in a mag after the start signal. As noted by the above the shooter gets bumped to Open. After the bump to open, then the shooter is free to load as many bullets as he wants in a magazine, change magazine pouch and holster positions, and free to tack on optics or a flashlight.
I don't think the person could change mag pouch and holster positions. 5.2.5.3 does not mention anything about being able to change those if bumped to a different division.
5.2.5.3 Unless specified in the written stage briefing, or unless required by a Range Officer, the position of holsters and allied equipment must not be moved or changed by a competitor during a match. If a retaining strap is attached to a holster or magazine pouch, it must be applied or closed prior to issuance of the "Standby" command.I also don't think he can change the sights because of being bumped, only if his originals become unsafe or unserviceable:
5.1.7 Competitors must use the same handgun and type of sights for all courses of fire in a match. However, in the event that a competitor's original handgun and/or sights become unserviceable or unsafe during a match, the competitor must, before using a substitute handgun and/or sights, seek permission from the Range Master who may approve the substitution provided he is satisfied: -
Is it possible that you were shooting lead followed by jacketed bullets. I suppose if there was some heavy lead in the barrel and you pushed a jacketed bullet down the bore it would raise pressures. What load were you shooting?
I rarely shoot lead but I appreciate you mentioning that possibility. It was 4.5gr of Titegroup under a 115gr MG FMJ at 1.125.
See, S&W puts a warning right there on the right side. I had to look twice.
That was too funny!
Dude! Tommy better make out like a freakin' bandit at Christmas!
Just sayin'....
Contact S&W. As has been said, they may want it for analysis. And if they offer a discount on a replacement, it's in no way shady for you to accept it. It falls into the category of "Outrageous Service", and bears greater fruit than the expense of the gesture.
Like he doesn't make out well enough ALL YEAR long!
I will be sending it to S&W and will let you guys know what they say.
One of the reasons I switched from TG to WST. That is what a single charge of WST looks like.
I had trouble making PF with WST. How much are you using?
Maybe? I wouldn't, though, if it were my body parts on the line
Not my body parts...they're Tommy's. ...and I can make another that looks just like...
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Any idea how close they are to getting $40K?
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Well I tried double charging a few to make major and got less than desirable results...
3-Gun Match, Augusta, GA 11/26/11
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Oops, found a scoresheet I missed and another I entered wrong. Updated results posted.