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Mine is just my initials here on enos, but most everywhere else I use "Techna" which is a nod to a former business I owned. Though the product I sold was called something else, users started calling referring to them as "a Techna".

Terrible picture of my two Shadows.

What a great picture of a beautiful gun!

The TS Orange was at the top of my list of things to see at the show. It did not disappoint. I'm sorry I didn't take better pictures.....

http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=220139#entry2453757I haven't shot a match with mine, but I'm very happy with the retention and the draw. Oops, several holsters were mentioned in the thread. Mine is the one talked about in the original post.

It's tough to beat the beauty of hard chrome.

I appreciate the input himurax13. I bought my Shadow to use primarily in 3 gun, so a magwell isn't a class busting issue for me. I shoot IDPA with my 9mm Trojan and the magwell provides seemingly significant help in hitting that small single stack target during mag changes. To be truthful though, I haven had the opportunity to shoot or even do much dry fire practice with the CZ yet.

Not much benefit compared to no magwell at all? I knew that new grips (or a trimming of the stock grips) were needed. It looks like CZUB has the magwell, but grips are OOS currently.

I'd like to find the CZUB style, but if I'm not mistaken I've got to order from them and take the hit on shipping and long delivery time? The only place I've even seen them listed elsewhere (included the grips) in Dlask in Canada, but they are out of stock. Any ideas on other places to try? Though I think I might prefer the smaller one from CZUB, I'd entertain the one from CZC if I could find it in stock and in black.

Has anyone tried the Nelson single stack magazines with a TacSol conversion unit? I tried GSG mags with mine and they don't even try to function.

ABSOLUTELY!!! That's my NEXT build (I really need to STOP cruising the classifieds here). That's a nice looking gun you have there, who's frame did you use? That's actually the frame from my Kimber Team Match, so it's not really a "build" I guess. Well, maybe if you count the home built DeltaPoint mount.......

I guess single stack guys can play too?

And Ranger, you will have a lot of fun with that one. I can't help with the Mini ACOG question as I've never used one, but I like my suppressed 5" 9mm AR quite a lot.

I know that yours was old reply, but I can help with part of your trepidation. Simply recognize that you'll amortize the cost of the trust over MANY MORE stamps than those first two..... As my not such a good influence buddy would say; "Look, you gotta spend money to save money." It's only idiotic if you think about it.

I don't know if this will be of much help, but this is an SDN-6 on my 14.5 with a 13" Alpha. It looks like another .5" of handguard would not provide any clearance issues. It's close though. This gun is actually a 5.56, but that makes no difference I'm sure.

For me there were several reasons for not buying an Eagle when I bought my Trojan. The only one that seems as valid now as it did then is cost. I bought my Trojan as a new condition second hand gun and at what I paid, a new Eagle would have been a pretty good chunk of change more. Now if i were buying a brand new hard chrome Trojan the gap narrows significantly. It narrows even more if one were to get lucky and find a used Eagle. Another reason I felt a single stack was a better option is because I was a little bit afraid of the cost and finiky nature of the mags. Looking at it now, the mags don't seem all that expensive (especially considering that I have bought 4 more TacSol mags for my 2211 at 80 bucks a pop) nor do they seem the require magic dust (I dont even know where the hell I got that idea) to make them work. The final, and I now realize the worst reason, for me not buying a 2011 is that I thought I would just use my already nicely set up Glock 34 if I even needed a high capacity 9mm. Boy was I wrong. Since getting the Trojan, and even though I wasn't new to 1911s, I just don't want to shoot the Glock much anymore. Don't get me wrong. It's as reliable as anybody could ask of a pistol, I shoot it reasonably well, and for some reason I can't imagine selling it, but I'm just not drawn to it like I was before starting to shoot a 9mm 1911.

They are part of the Techwell system. I think they are only referred to as "Balck and grey diagonal" at dealers. I like them well enough, but as G10 grips go, they are not nearly as grippy as the VZs I have on another gun.

I love my 9mm Trojan. FreeJersey, That S&W Pro Series is a beautiful gun!

It has not effected function in my gun. I've only put about a hundred and fifty rounds through it since making the modification and it's been the same perfectly functioning gun that it's always been. I don't know what the weight of the Arrendondo unit is but I'm guessing that given its greater size, my homemade button has more mass.

Mark, I had some 6-32 button head cap screws in various lengths on hand. I was at a local Home Depot yesterday and they had 6-32x1/2" stainless button head cap screws in stock though, so you might have some luck there. I think a 4-40 screw would be strong enough, but the thought of trying to drill and tap the Mossberg bolt button with such a thin drill bit and tap makes me shudder. That thing is HARD. I don't remember the composition of the tap I used, but several years ago I invested in several high quality taps for threading holes in the carbon fiber trigger prototypes I was making (carbon fiber is super hard on cutting tools because the fibers are so abrasive) and my last new one was used up tapping this one hole. A brand new hardware store quality tap will not work when threading the hole. I drilled through the face/checkering. I did not expect to have trouble when I started and used a TiN coated bit at first. All that did was barely dimple the spot I was drilling. I switched to the carbide bit and got through, but is was still work getting it done. I thought my carbide bit was maybe getting dull (see the comment on cutting tools and carbon fiber above) because it was as difficult as it was, but given the trouble you are having, maybe that button is even harder than I thought.

The bolt release on my 930 was very hard. So hard in fact that I had to use a solid carbide bit to drill it and a very high quality tap to cut the threads. I used a 6-32 button head cap screw to attach the new extended bolt release because the hollow button houses a spring and 6-32 will fit inside that spring. I made the release extension out of micarta and even though it is huge, due to the hardness of the button I have little fear that the the leverage will cause the cap screw to pull out of the threads.

I'm glad the topic somewhat took off and that there have been so many responses. Thanks to all that have contributed. The posts here do kind of highlight the quandary I alluded to in my first post. How do I in good conscience recommend a 930 to a friend given the grief some people have experienced? Tougher still, how do I tell a friend to stay away when mine works so well for so little (relatively speaking) money. To complicate things, several of these guys looking at my experience come from a different sport in which I worked as technical support for a number of years. They know me as the person often responsible for keeping their gear running through an event which they would have spent quite a lot of money in air fair, entry fees, prior practice, and equipment to be able to participate in. Technical advice was at the very core of the beginnings of the frienships that developed. I know that in the end we are all adults and responsible for our own decisions, but damn, old habits die hard. I keep reminding my friends that I am a rookie at this game and not very good at it anyway. Maybe I need to encourage more of them to come watch me shoot and the lot of them will soon stop asking me for advice. It could work.

Ah, this may be good info. I wonder if there was just a group of guns that had issues, rather than there being some inherent weakness in the design? I'll go over there and do some reading. I'd forgotten about that forum.Thanks for the input fellas.

Or I should ask what IS happening to the 930? I bought my 28" 930 Waterfowl in December of 2011 after reading the mostly favorable reviews on the various versions of this shotgun. I immediately cut the barrel down to 22" (I have the equipment to do this) and shortly after sent it to GunCat to have it threaded for chokes (I do not yet have the equipment to do this). I opened up the loading port myself and polished a number of components in the action. A Nordic extension was added, the transition between the extension and mag tube cleaned up, and the stock follower was polished and gently beveled. Several other little additions and changes have been made such as Briley extended chokes, HiViz front sight and a home built enlarged bolt release. To date, I have not had a single malfunction of any kind, shooting everything from federal bulk, to slugs, to high brass heavy loads. It is smooth to cycle, smooth to shoot, and shoots point of aim with the slugs I have been using. Now in the interest of full disclosure I have to admit that by most standards, the round count on my gun is low at probably not more than 600. While the round count is low, it really does not seem relevant to my question of what has caused this shotgun to go from a solid recommendation in a budget 3 gun shotgun, to a red headed whipping boy? The reason I say round count is not relevant to my question, is because the stories and complaints seem to be centered on problems that have bothered owners from the day they took their guns out of the boxes. Also, the JM Pro gets more than its fair share of reported problems. Although this new-ish version of the gun is intended for competition, it doesn't seem to have been on the market long enough, nor does it seem to be the typical choice (understandably) of heavy users that shoot a lot of matches. So if its not a longevity issue (yet) what is it? Why aren't these guns running for people when my has been such a pleasure? I accept that the level of fit and finish is not on par with guns costing more money, and that there are some limited duty parts used in the construction of the 930, but I didn't expect anything different when I handed over the cash. What I did expect was for it to be reliably working shotgun, and it has delivered that for me. But now I am faced with a problem and I guess the reason for my long post. I have recently reconnected with a group of good guys and old friends that are wanting to start shooting in local multi-gun matches. Three or four have come out to watch and are loving what they saw. Several of these guys are starting from scratch, in that they have NONE of the guns suitable for the game. Carry guns yes, maybe an O/U or other nice hunting shotgun, but that's it. The expense of acquiring all the guns and gear to get started is high, and the lure of something 3 gun ready like the JM Pro is strong. To make matters worse, when they come to watch and maybe even borrow my gun and it works so well, what do I offer as a possible reason to stay away from the 930? Or barring that, what correctable problems can I caution them about? Right now tentatively suggesting the Versamax or possibly a used M2 though its still not an answer to what problems plague the 930 and why they exist. Sure, I can tell them to read up on their own and find out but I'm hoping to get some more answers and info for them in this thread.