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Thank you Sherwyn and crew. Fun and interesting match.
Are there overall results anywhere?
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Would have been awesome to have L10 at Tulsa with Production.
Any possibility of that happening, or is it all set in stone?
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I normally shoot 350 to 400 for a practice session.
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I am glad to finally see a thread about prize tables where the majority seems to favor rewarding excellence (by order of finish) rather than mediocrity (random draw).
Maybe our country stands a chance after all.
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Thanks to all who helped put on this match and thanks to all the sponsors. Thank you STI.
Who was the evil stage designer? Great match, tuff stages.
Can someone post combined overall results?
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Yes, if your tool is long enough... But, it's a silly thing to do.
I have a bunch of XM193 556 ammo, and I broke a bolt in this upper using the xm193 at a major rifle match last year. I would also like to be able to get a little more
velocity out of my 68gr reloads using 2230 powder. Accurate Arms lists 23.1gr as a max for 223 chambers, but 24 as a max for chambers rated for 556 ammo using a 69gr bullet.
Where can I get a long tool to do this? If this is a bad idea, please explain why?
The 5.56 has a sloppy throat area with a long leade, that is what allows you to shoot more powder. The bullet doesn't contact the rifling or anything tight as quickly, which reduces the pressure. This is fine for 55 gr. FMJ bullets that you are not looking to get great accuracy out of. However, if you also plan on shooting match bullets, your accuracy will probably suffer. I would not do it! Also, trying to ream the chamber/throat area without having the barrel mounted solidly in a lathe will make it very difficult getting the depth right. If you push the reamer in too far and cut the shoulder deeper, you could ruin the barrel. In my opinion you would be ruining what may be a nice rifle just by converting a Wilde chamber to 5.56!
Mike
Thanks for all the info guys.
It is a 223 chamber not Wylde. I guess I would probably be better off selling the upper and building what I want.
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Funny, I was first L10 in the unofficial combined results...
That just makes it worse. Talk about motivation to train. I would rather lose by 10, than 1.
It doesn't get any closer than that. I have never felt so lucky. I should probably go buy a lottery ticket.
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It has a Clark carbon fiber handguard that is rubber cemented on. I was told it would be very difficult to remove, and probably ruin the handguard.
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Thanks for a great match Dan and Chris and all who helped make this match possible. This was my first Ohio match. Hopefully the first of many.
And a special thanks to the match sponsor Matt Cheely.
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Yes, if your tool is long enough... But, it's a silly thing to do.
I have a bunch of XM193 556 ammo, and I broke a bolt in this upper using the xm193 at a major rifle match last year. I would also like to be able to get a little more
velocity out of my 68gr reloads using 2230 powder. Accurate Arms lists 23.1gr as a max for 223 chambers, but 24 as a max for chambers rated for 556 ammo using a 69gr bullet.
Where can I get a long tool to do this? If this is a bad idea, please explain why?
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Can you ream a 223 chamber to Wylde or 556 without removing the barrel from the upper receiver?
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Do you have an idea of how much will be up for grabs for the team challenge?
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Take a class with Ted Puente. He teaches aggressive trigger reset. It not only helps your trigger control, but your recoil control also, if practiced properly. I've had training from 4 other GMs, but Ted's was the best.
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As one of the shooters on our squad pointed out "just because they own that many tiny steel targets doesn't mean they have to use them all in the same match!"
Those things gave me hell on 8 round arrays (shooting SS). I think every SS shooter ended up doing at least a couple of standing reloads because of them. They made several challenging stages look deceptively easy, and that's good stage design. We have a LOT more of those 6 X 6 plates...we didn't use half of what we bought this year.
Bob Delp
I hope the prize table is back to order of finish next year. The first time I win Limited Division at this match and it is the first time they do random draw.
I really enjoyed the match though, and the little steel. Bob has got to be the nicest match director in the sport.
Great match Bob.
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Is there anyone who can post results?
I would really like to see combined division results.
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This is why I posted in the first place, insulting comments like people moving faster than their skill level. These are the same people that shoot match after match and have very few if any previous DQs. Two other guys I know who are A shooters, who are very safe, and have been doing this for many years both DQed. At least one of them never DQed before.
I know I earned my DQ, but I also know I wasn't trying to outrun my skill level. I had 2 stages to go, knew I was shooting very well, and was in coasting mode.
The fact is the fact 11% of the shooters DQed. Yes, all or most of us earned it, one way or another. No, it wasn't 50% of the shooters, not even 20%. There was nothing ridiculous that you couldn't do if you just slowed down enough. But if 11% DQs became the norm at any one particular match, how many people would continue to invest their time and money traveling across the country to shoot it.
Will I be back next year. I hope I will be able to. I also hope the DQs are more like 2% or less next year, and I certainly hope I am not one of them.
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Lets just put all of the targets directly downrange and have no shooting at side berms at all, that way no one will ever get DQed for breaking the 180.
When I shot stage 12 Thomas explained the possiblity of a 180 issue very well and 2 out of 300+ shooters had a brain fart and broke the 180, that's pretty low numbers on such a "dangerous" COF. By the way that was my favorite stage of the entire match, loved it! 
Wow. I need to stay off these forums.
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I was not there but know several who were and my understanding is that there were several stages where it was easy to break the 180 if you ran quicker than you could shoot. It would be interesting to see where the DQ's were at. My guess for the 180's is stage 9 if you were slow at swinging from the right side targets to the left side targets, and stage 12 if you ran past the targets behind the walls and swung back past the 180.
Stage 12 had two DQs, and both were at the front wall right at the beginning of the stage. One person didn't get far enough back to get their gun around the wall safely, so they pointed it backwards to clear the wall. The other person got around the wall all right, but didn't pull the gun back in before starting forward, so the gun was left behind when they moved, ending up pointing in an unsafe direction.
In general, the 180 DQs seemed to be related to people getting tunnel vision about what they were doing NOW, and forgetting other things---so they'd swing back to something they missed, and flat out break the 180. The 180 DQs I heard about (and I worked the match, on stage 12) weren't a matter of taking a calculated shot that happened to hit 181 degrees, or cases where they had to made a shot close to the 180 and miscalculated---they were cases of "Oh, I forgot to shoot that" and pointing the gun obviously in an unsafe direction.
ADs...well...they happened. And to some unlikely people, too.
I will say that it certainly seemed like a number of people were over-running their current skill level, and pushing harder than they could handle.
I was the second shooter referred to above on stage 12. I am Master class and have been shooting major matches for quite a while. I have never DQed at any match before, although I am sure I will again someday.
Before we shot the stage I sat there and told my brother, this is just plain dangerous to set up a stage like this, referring to the exact spot where I DQed.
I was aware of the spot, there just was not alot of room to get into and out of. As I was trying to get back around the wall my forearm bumped it and caused the gun to break the 180. In hindsight I should have stepped backwards out of the fault line. Sometimes you get it in your head that you aren't aloud to step out of the shooting area, or maybe it will just take to long.
I am sure all or most of us earned our own DQ.
The fact is there were alot of places to run past targets and a lot of targets set near the 180. This is why there were a lot of DQs.
In my opinion, if a RO is supposed to be watching a certain spot for possible 180 violations, maybe you should move a target or a wall a little so it will be safer.
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What are the targets that were on the cones? They look frustrating.
We shot these things http://www.do-alltra...oundbounce.html
And soft balls. None of which were consistent. Homie don't miss 10 in a row at 10 yards or use 30 rounds to hit 3 inside 25 yards:(
I wish I would have had some Hornady TAP!
Jesse, looks like soft points or hollow points were in order, over FMJ's. Kind of like shooting bowling pins.
I had the same issues Jesse. This was my first stage. It cost me my muligan ( I thought my rifle somehow lost its zero). After using my muligan it still cost me about 20 seconds to other shooters who were using the right bullets. I was running 55gr fmjs at about 3250. On my second run I was watching the cube wiggle as I shot through it several times.
Great prize table and the ROs were awesome.
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What time do we start Saturday morning?
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Does anyone know the address for the range?
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Is there a match hotel? Or any recommendations for a close hotel?
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Will there be a prize table Sunday afternoon?
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I've been wondering about this one also. September would be nice.
When I shot stage 12 Thomas explained the possiblity of a 180 issue very well and 2 out of 300+ shooters had a brain fart and broke the 180, that's pretty low numbers on such a "dangerous" COF. 
Single Platform Decision
in 1911-style Pistols
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I would get the standard wide frame and a tungsten guide rod to bring it to near full dust cover weight when shooting USPSA major, then change the guide rod for IDPA. I would also consider tri topping or flat topping the slide to take out a little weight and still be IDPA legal. Oh, and I have had the pleasure of putting a few hundred rounds through a brand new Cheely gun. They are very nice.