OK, here's my Para story:
In the spring of O6, in the quest for a new Hi-cap ESP gun to replace my HK M13's (too much to fix, parts are getting non-existent).. I bought a pair of P18's, one old style, one new style..(extractors)
I wanted a spare *power extractor to keep in the range bag, as my main gun would be the "new' model.. I sent an email requesting part # and price..
Here are my emails to para.
Dear Scott Noyes:
We acknowledge receipt of your e-mail and take this opportunity to thank you for having chosen Para-Ordnance products.
Para-Ordnance does install the new power extractor on existing Para pistols through our warranty station at a cost of US$99.00. You would have to send in your slide and barrel only to have this part installed:
P.O. Inc. (RACAC1026)
Att: Customer Service Department
1427 Allensville Road
Unit #2
Sevierville, TN
37876
When returning our product to the warranty station, we advise that the slide and barrel be shipped via UPS and insured for its full value. Enclose a brief note explaining what you would like done to the slide and barrel and include a name of a contact person with daytime telephone number. Also include either a cashiers cheque or money order. Your return address must be on the outside of the package as well as on the inside letter. If your return authorization number (e.g. “RACAC1026”), and return address are not on the outside of the package or if your return address has been covered up by a forwarding service or some other way, the package may be refused.
Please note, that Para-Ordnance does not sell the power extractor as a separate item at this time.
Trusting the above will meet with your satisfaction, we thank you for the opportunity to be of service and ask that you do not hesitate to contact our office if we can be of further assistance.
Sincerely,
Caroline Crawford
Scott Noyes wrote:
I have two P18's, one older model with a standard size extra tor, one newer model with "power extractor". I would like to know the part # for the "power extractor", and where to purchase a spare.
thanks,
Scott Noyes
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Dear Scott Noyes:
the part is fairly new, and it does require qunsmithing to install, it is not a drop in part. At this time, Para-Ordnance is offering this service for people who have Para pistols that do not have the new power extractor installed. In the future we will be offering other gunsmiths to purchase the parts to retro fit the new power extractor such as Dawson Precision etc.
Sincerely,
Caroline Crawford
Scott Noyes wrote:
So, you're telling me that, I can not purchase a spare extractor for my late model P18 ?????????? If the gun fails at/or before a Match I'm SOL????? If that is the case, I can't for the life of me think, why I would want to ruin my old model P18, by paying you to install a part that is not available???? Seems to be some of the worst marketing I've ever heard.
Scott Noyes
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Dear Scott Noyes:
If you wish to purchase the power extractor, the cost is US$75.00 per unit. You would have to send in either a cashiers cheque or money order to our service center in Sevierville, TN below along with a note requesting the purchase of the part and they will send out the part to you.
Sincerely,
Caroline Crawford.
Scott Noyes wrote:
I have no interest in converting my old model, I was looking for a "spare" for my new model. I shoot competitively and carry spare parts for all my guns. If a gun can not be fixed at or before a match, I have no use for it. That is why I no longer shoot any of my six Heckler & Koch P7M8 or P7M13's competitively. I felt your product(s) would be a viable solution, however, I am starting to doubt my decision.
Scott
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UPDATE:
At approx, 12k rounds the *power extractor went SOUTH.... I called Para, and they told me to send them the gun in for repair... I asked, how about sending me a replacement spring for the power extractor, they agreed, but told me that probably would NOT fix it and I would then have to return pistol for repair.
The new spring did NOT fix the FTE problems...avoiding to send the gun in for repair, a local gunsmith 'sleeved' the slide to except normal, *ready-on-the-shelf, wear-out in 10-15k round, extractors....another 15K rounds have gone thru the gun, with NO FTE.....*but I have a couple of Ed Brown extractors in my range bag, and they were not 75 dollars each!!!
Sometime this summer, the little spanner nut on the left side of the rear-sight disappered... I called Para, wanting a replacement, after leaving messages for *3 days, I talked to someone, they told me the part was not for sale or replacement, BUT I could purchase a complete rear sight from Brownells....I choose to replace it with a Bo mar, rather than there Canadian/Chinese junk..
Scott