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  1. The spinner is just such a target. we made the spinner, then folks found out that heavier bullets and shot charges worked better on it which got taken to the ludicrous. what with Prairie Storm shot shells 3" magnum turkey loads etc. Now many matches have a new rule on what ammunition can be shot at this target, and yet you can still use this same ammunition on far steel etc. We now have "target specific" rules.

    Now this isn't just limited to shotgun, I know lots of folks who make sure they have the hottest, heaviest ammo they can run for both pistol and rifle. so now instead of just getting a bunch of ammo ready for a match we now need to take a bunch of specialty ammo just to be competitive, because of a single target design.

    Now I know this target has many supporter, who say it is great because it needs heavier loads. Wouldn't we have been better served by a ballistic pendulum that has to be moved so far? Then there are those who say it is great because it teaches patience and timing (I'm not sure how that relates to action shooting, but ok), but wouldn't we have been better served by having a set time you have to shoot the shots at say every two seconds and the one closest to breaking the shot right at the time gets the most points?

    The spinner isn't the only target system like this either, just so you don't think that this is a rant on the spinner. Disappearing targets also are a target that required "a special rule". since you can't shoot it at rest, there is no penalty for not hitting it.??? How about steel plates that can spin, New rules for those as well

    When coming up with new target designs I think we should be asking ourselves is this a good target for any and all applications and will react the same for every shooter or will it generate another page or two of rules

  2. They are GREAT barrels still! The no love comes from the latest and greatest crowd who is fickle at best. I recently bought two of their barrels through Brownells and both will shoot a bit under 1 M.O.A. with good loads. Fulton Armory also is a distributer of their barrels.

    See you at world Shotgun?

  3. The S.O.F. matches were all surprise and blind stages. It really separated the walk through kings from those who could react and scan. It was also a better test of field accuracy as one couldn't "dial up, or down" before the start of a stage. It is funny to me that the real good shooters tended to gravitate to the top anyway, and it was a BLAST!!! So in a competitive context I think it is a good thing we are bringing some of thinking back to the 3-gun arena!

    As for the physical challenges....meh....I came to shoot not drag dummy,s, or rappel, or the myriad of other stuff that seems to get thrown in, but if it is part of a stage, AND DOES NOT overshadow the shooting part....I.E. the running time far out weighs the shooting time. it is ok.

  4. I guess I'm just thick....I don't get it. Say I'm running my beloved M-14. If I'm zeroed at 300 yards, I know I'm 4" hi at 100 yes. I'm 6" hi at 200, dead on at 300 and 12" low at 400, what does a big piece of paper with 4 different groups give me that I don't already know? And why would I need that on a cell phone picture? Not trying to be " that guy", but I really don't get it.

  5. So well spoken, so poorly typed! ( like I'm one to talk, hehehe). Here is the dichotomy of small steel plates....like Mr. T so aptly points out!!!

    We accept a bullet that breaks a perf on a paper target no matter how minor the "perf break" on HUGE scoring zones. On a much smaller steel plate we say a bullet/shot that performs enough energy transfer to "move" this little tiny plate.....I.e. MUCH MORE THAN BREAK A PERF ON A MUCH LARGER SCORING AREA PAPER TARGET.......A .. MISS????? A spun target has been HIT!!! Might even be a good hit depending on the base design! That is why ALL the targets being discussed ARE ILLEGAL IPSC TARGETS!! Jesse and I completly agree!!! A Spun plate called a miss is B.S.

  6. Easy 308 man. We will sit at a cafe in Italy and enjoy a " rule session" talk over some nice Italian beer, and all this will just melt away! It truly isn't worth arguing over. Anyone can interpret a rule set any way they want when the governing body is not directly involved. As for who is right and who is wrong I'll just say my meager understanding of the rules says Canadian beer is the best in this instance. :)

  7. I'm thinking that a Canadian shooter, who has always shot under IPSC rules and competes regularly in IPSC shotgun matches may have a valid point. It didn't come across a sour grapes, it came across as experience, but I wasn't there so I'm not sure. The target sure looks "outlaw" to me given my very slight exposure to the IPSC rule set, as for the rest, it is about what I expected.

  8. Thats what I would do. I only know of 3 guys who use a ching sling in competition, and one of those very rarely. Of the other two, Kurt Miller is one of them. There are a couple of good tricks to set up and use. I'd get hold of Kurt

    There are several real good pictures out there of an AR set up right. I know they have been posted here on ENOS. Might search under iron sight rifles and Kurt Miller. I know Zak Smith over on demigod has one of those pictures on his history of 3-gun rifles.

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