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My trajectory is what ever the Federal Tru Ball low recoil slugs give. I actually zero at 100 with full power slugs. I find that low recoils slugs will hit within 3 inches of those so I am happy. Level of detail??? I just shoot them at various ranges and know where they hit. It isn't like we are loading "bench rest" accurate shotgun ammo here
Sights???.....it's a shotgun it doesn't need no sights!!!.....or so I am told.
But to answer your question it is a 10-22 Ruger flip up sight. Elevation is accomplished with the little slide that locks with a screw and windage is adjusted by drifting the whole sight in the dove tail. Front sight is a Hi-Vis comp fiber optic sight. This combo was put on the gun in 1998 and has held zero since then. It is easy to do head shots on a Metric target at 50 yards with the afore mentioned Tru-Ball.
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Ken has really hit the mark. Iron sight division's demise DID IN FACT start when targets became less visible, when M.D.s started getting lazy and not painting or having a good back drop, putting targets in the shadows.,...etc. Iron sight/Standard over seas is still a viable and well attended division because the targets are VISIBLE and they make sure that they are!!!
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With a shotgun I kind of squeeze my eyes shut a little with each shot, I squeeze them a lot harder as the shot weight goes up or the velocity goes up or both! They are down right squinched up tight with anything like a Prairie Storm round.....Ouch!!!
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I zeroed a shotgun once at 50 yards and then it hit right where the sight was pointing at 50 yards, so I guess my results mirror yours. So to recap, if you zero your gun to hit point of aim at 50 yards it will hit point of aim at 50 yards. I think lots of people have had this result.
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Match ammo? Yes I like to match my ammo to the gun I am shooting. I hate showing up with the long skinny bullets when I needed the short fat bullets.
Federal, Black Hills, Hornady, Atlanta Arms, and a myriad of others make very nice match ammo.....Go Federal! Brownells carries it as well as Mid Way U.S.A. Ammo Man. S,G, Ammo, lots of on line sources. you just need to figure out what your barrel likes and then search for it.
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What Chuck said is right except it is silly as well, It is for when he shows up and you didn't expect it!
T Bacus for the win! Did RNT save non Magnified division? Well maybe not, but what we sure as hell did was open 3-gun up to guys who didn't have a place to play with their "social rifle" and in so doing got hooked on 3-gun! Now most the guys I kept track of gravitated to Optics after a bit, after all the were already "glass quire", so may be not saved, but it does have value.
Jim, I have switched from TI to TO at the last minute, There were 15 people in TI and all of them were new shooters except me. I told the M.D. to put me in TO and I shot the whole match with my TI rifle in TO. So with that in mind, and with the way folks think in this nation now a days. If a person can shoot a Iron sighted rifle in Optics class it is only fair that a Optic guy can shoot his rifle in Iron class. If not we are being bigoted and we need a march or protest or something.
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No Dan, now they would have to haul a whole separate set of gear and guns to do that! This way it is all the same stuff! Make that last minute "division shopping" expedition real easy.
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But Pat, you don't understand. There are at least 100 guys who shoot tac scope who upon arriving at the match realize that Daniel Horner is shooting in tac scope at that match, and now want to switch to any division other than tac scope. You got to have a place for these poor guys to play.
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Yes Pat, lets thank the "optic companies" for bringing us this great change in limited that "pioneered" the use of red dots in "iron sight". Those companies are such forward thinkers!
Steely, it is called sealing paint. It is real thick and when dry, brittle. If the ring turns at all it will crack. If the "seal is broke" match D.Q. cause it is called cheating.....as one of the two "optics companies" that started the red dots in iron division, I say bring it!
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Iron City is very good gear! I do like the look and ease of cleaning of the "Copper Head" carrier. Their Titanium carrier should be very nice at a good price!
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The 512 will work just fine! As long as it is a good one from the start. The recoil impulse on these cabinets seems less to me than my 308, and my XS-02 has done just fine on my SOCOM. Send me a pm with your email and I'll send you a picture of the pig I got last night with my itsy bitsy SOCOM
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Correctomundo Chuck!
DocMedic if you heard "both scenarios" one of the ones you heard was from someone in no way connected to putting this match on, but feel free to keep believing what you read on the internet.
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Well, I am! What percentage do the others get???? Well I don't care cause I'M WINNING!
One piece of paper? Really? Don't you know this group better than that? Now no more non sequitur question for you or it will be ashes and soot in your stocking!
BTW there is no 308 optic, or 308 iron, nor 223 optic or 223 iron.....there is ONLY Optic or Iron what points you make on paper are entirely up to you! You have the values!
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Tac Com answers their phone and emails.
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I have one the barrel and bolt is from TROMIX in Tulsa ok. I use Accurate Arms 5744 powder and a WW large pistol primer. I have used Barns 325 grain bullets and my favorite Hornady 300 grain hollow points. I have the dreaded Eotech SS-02 sight on it and it will hold 1-1.5 M.O.A. at 100 yards. I've heard guys have real good luck with "little gun" powder as well. I was told the Hornady bullet wouldn't work, but like most things on the web...it was B.S. it is my favorite bullet in this caliber!!!
You do need to do a bit of a half moon cut down into the receiver, like an M-4 cut at 6 o'clock to ease feeding of everything, but most will run without it. It is strong pig medicine no doubt, and has become my very favorite AR type carbine!
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I have one the barrel and bolt is from TROMIX in Tulsa ok. I use Accurate Arms 5744 powder and a WW large pistol primer. I have used Barns 325 grain bullets and my favorite Hornady 300 grain hollow points. I have the dreaded Eotech SS-02 sight on it and it will hold 1-1.5 M.O.A. at 100 yards. I've heard guys have real good luck with "little gun" powder as well. I was told the Hornady bullet wouldn't work, but like most things on the web...it was B.S. it is my favorite bullet in this caliber!!!
You do need to do a bit of a half moon cut down into the receiver, like an M-4 cut at 6 o'clock to ease feeding of everything, but most will run without it. It is strong pig medicine no doubt, and has become my very favorite AR type carbine!
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Aaahhh, its all hearts and flowers time.....get a room you two!
They got to lock, or be capped! If they aren't you don't know where your first miss will be.
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Gee Chuck, has 3-gun morphed so much that folks no longer recognize that the more points you make the higher your score, as long as your no too slow at it? Time plus has warped your head!
STEELHEAD if my b.a.c. is the denominator......no one is going to have a very high ratio.......just saying!
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What makes a good 3-gun rifle? The guy driving it!!!!
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I'll be there if at all possible amigos, do you need any help?
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Man, old farts like you are so resistant to change Jesse
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Heck yeah! Why use birdshot when a 22lr would probably knock down the steel. Lets make this a rimfire match. That would go well with the "motif".
I can see it now, Ruger Rimfire tactical 3-gun and quilting bee.
Chamomile Tea???.....I like mine with a twist of Lemon in my Hello Kitty mug with a Graham Cracker or two, but I would never do anything like knit while enjoying it because it is my special me time
Remember, it is supposed to be a "tactical" match. Not many Police Departments, nor the Military issue birdshot for use in a social shotgun
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SOF WAS run and gun, just no walk throughs wich meant you had to be able to formulate a plan on the fly. It kicked the butts of the USPSA walk through kings, and also made the stages more exciting! They were the only 3-gun match for quite a while.
Next, along came SMM3-Gun. It was mainly a USPSA club that put on the match, so shooters re-set stages. You could do walk throughs, and the staff shot for score.
As 3-gun started growing it attracted the guys tired of USPSA, but their paradigm was the USPSA way of doing matches, so it became kind of the norm, which is the way it is played today. Less staff, shooters work, staff shoots for score. I wouldn't say the SOF match fell out of favor, I would say it was nudged out in favor of the "easiest" way to run a match, and sometimes easy isn't the right answer.
you will really never know just how "busy" a stage can till you can't do a bunch of walk throughs. You stand there, make ready, and try to relax and then BEEP!!! And all you got is your head on a swivel, and hopefully a hand full of basics. Get too excited and you miss or run by targets. Be too timid and your time blows.
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1-8x Scopes?
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I am confused, what does throwing two rounds down range to avoid a FTE have to do with 1-8X optics?
Limit to 6X? so we now need to have optics limited? I mean really? Anything over 1X is a waste anyway, but that is coming from a die hard Iron sight shooter.....No, real Iron sights!