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OK guys, at our monthly local USPSA match we have between 20 and 35 shooters every month. Where does everyone draw the line as far as how many per squad. I have seen as few as 7 keep things moving and squads with 12 or so just get lazy. Yeseterday we had 27 shooters on 2 squads, seemed like 3 would have moved a bit better.
What's the minimum and whats the max?
I would think 7 minimum: RO, scorekeeper, shooter, on deck shooter and three to tape and set steel. When we have 22 or more run 3 squads? Where should we draw the line?
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Great thread. I have been thinking of getting a 40 open top end for my limited gun. Or the 9mm open top end for my G17 and just run Open minor. Open definately peaks my interest, but mostly to improve my shooting. I can see how shooting open would allow you to concentrate more on the small things. But the main reason is Open guns rock! I just can't justify a full on open gun at this point.
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You won't have any trouble making major!
I don't shoot revo, I just can't do another gun right now, but I don't see any problem with it, as far as being competitive, shoot it and see.
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I have seen this quite a bit, and to generalize it seems like the smaller a dog is the worse their behavior. I really think it's most small dog owners fault I hate most small dogs! My Border Collie agreed with this I think...We were scolded several time in a class for him nipping at a stupid Pom Pom that was in his face. No nothing was said to the other owner.
Thought about letting the lesh "slip" a couple times
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I don't think you can be very competitive with an AK, but they are fun to shoot! For Heavy Metal though a Saiga in 308 could work, 20 round mags and there are a couple people throwing HK type sights on them. Look at Red Jacket or Rifle Dynamics, they seem like they know what they are doing with the Kalishnakov platform, Krebs does good work too.
As for the PSLs, after about 5 rounds the zero starts to wander on most of them that I know of. Fun to shoot as well though. You just have to remember that the Russians want different things from thier firearms, and they need to be run differently. They are not a Stoner platform and never wanted to be....
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You might want to check out taylor freelance, I think they are making mag extensions for the M&P now. Glocks have more parts to add, but if you are new, and used to the M&P, shoot it. When you are ready to move up you will know. If you have money to burn, talk to one of the smiths on here to build you an S_I. YOu can shoot limited 10 for now and as you get some magazine extensions switch to limited.
In short your gun will be fine, is there something better, yup.
By the way, welcome to the forum! Look around, some of the best advice you will get here is "spend your money on ammo", you have to be really good to make equipment matter that much.
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Why not buy a .22 top end for your one of your STIs? Same trigger, grip, magwell, etc.. means more consistency...
Buying a separate platform doesn't make a lick of sense to me.
I have to agree, but you can never have too many guns
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I just got a camper 5.5 with the FO Front. It seems to shoot pretty dang well, it may be a little too light, on Outer limits it was bouncing all over the place on settling into the second box.
Then again it was 30 degrees and 20mph winds, and maybe I am just not used to it. As for accuracy, I put 9 out of ten under a dime at 10 yards the one that was out was way my fault, that is way more that you need even for the 12" plates at 20.As for a cheap optic, look at the aimpoint micro knock offs, I think the Burris one is about $100, and there is another I was looking at (Famous Maker?) for less than that. They seem to hold up OK, but that is from other sources, not me, and I don't know how they compare on weight. I eventually want to get a dot sight for mine, but for now I have other things to spend money on.
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Second stage, From in the open you were supposed to engage 2 targets, 2 shots each while retreating to cover. You started the stage with only 3 rounds in the gun. This meant you would be at slide lock in about 2 seconds. Not being a seasoned shooter as soon as the gun went to slide lock, I hit the mag release dropped the magazine, thus initiating the reload before I was behind cover. PE no. 2
Reloading an already empty gun out of cover is a penalty!? Sheesh, I guess that's good to know if I ever shoot IDPA again.
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ROTFLMAO!!!! If it doesn't fit in the mag it's ok...just hammer on the charging handle.. You will definately be the center of attention!!
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DAMN! Uhh, I don't really think I have anything else to say....
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Well, the first match is over and done with. Great success, 35 shooters! Learned some stuff, need to buy more paint than I thought, and the 2X4s may not last as long as I thought. This stuff is a blast! I can't believe more clubs don't shoot SCSA. Thanks to all that helped out.
Jason
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Thanks Jordan, have fun over there...
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Congadulations!
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The steel is in! Going to cut the 2X4s tomorrow night and se if we can get a couple stages pre-measured. I guess we are going to try a couple different score card configurations and see what works best. It's starting to sound like we might have a pretty good turnout, I din't know if I am more excited or nervous!
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There will be an SCSA match in Roswell, NM on November 20th and every third saturday of the month from now on. If your in the area and not shooting the three gun match in Leveland, TX, stop by. It will be four stages, so 100 rounds plus misses.
Email me at jvsnyes@hotmail.com if you have any questions.
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OK, I am going to throw my hat in the ring. I like three gun, and want to shoot three gun more in the future, but my complaint is that dang rules! NOBODY USES THE SAME RULES! Some allow this and not that some that and not this, some score this way, others score that way. Come on guys for petes sake I keep looking at getting a decent scope and every time I look at another match I need another scope! Or another pistol some have no power factor for anything, others use power factor for everything. Pump or semi, 8+1 or 9+1. Come on guys! Then the guys that run the sport I love, USPSA, come around and add another set of rules, this is CRAZY!
Anyway, I will probably be shooting more three gun in the future anyway, but really how many pistol only matches do we change rules for?
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I don't know where you are in your shooting, and I don't know a whole bunch, others will know more. The Para isn't a bad gun, as a matter of fact there is a guy with the initials of T.J. that does pretty good with one
. The problems that I am aware of with a para is the 80 series firing pin safety makes it harder to get a great trigger, but it is possible. The S_I magazines are easier to reload with due to a more forgiving taper. The new PXT extractor is terrible from most accounts, but somebody is now making a sleeve to utilize a regular extractor. Para mags are easier to get to hold 21.About the gun, is it reliable? Is it used or used up? If it's reliable and still in decent shape, get it. Use the extra $1k+ to buy more ammo and shoot the snot out of it! When you kill it, reward yourself with something else.
YMMV, just my $.02
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Off hand, we piss off rifle shooters who tinker all day with their scopes trying to hit a 400 yard 16x24 plate that all I can see is the glare at 2pm on a sunny day. Friend and I lobbed 230gr MIL-SPEC .45 ball ammo at it. There's a good 3-4 second delay on the ping. Rifle shooter asks how both of us did it. My buddy said like this! And he hit that plate 5 of 8 shots. I missed 3x but hit it 5 in a row after.
the rifle guys so pissed they left! Now. Put me on the clock with 14 yard SCSA plates and my draw is over 1.20 and I may miss the first big plate!
that is excellent!
That is friggin hilarious!!! THe problem is at 100 or less off hand I might actually shoot better groups with a pistol
I know a guy that hit a bird at 200M with an old wilson 1911. I was there, he took my $$
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Did you ever get this started? We are looking to get our first match done on the November 20th. Any advice?
Thanks
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Well, shot my first NRA TPC Match yesterday...them middle zones are small and if you drop points it hurts, BAD!!! The Glock ran great, and I won a stage, but some others were BAAAADDD. Ended up top 10 though I guess not terrrible for my first attempt at a three gun match and with that scoring to boot. Not so sure if I like the scoring, but it's a game and gotta adjust for the rules, and practice loading the shotgun!
Back to the STI this week, thank goodness I am tired of that goofy trigger! Got some new loads to try before the match hope they work. I am trying the lighter bullets, played with some 155s before and kinda liked them but didn't really shoot enough to judge for sure.
Hope the steel arrives in time for the SCSA Match in two weeks!, it looks like it will be close...
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I can tell you I was VERY nervous sitting down on that stool even with my Ghost holster in semi-lock mode. I can certainly understand how that happened to Taran.
That's why I started stage 4 with my holster fully locked. I would have duct-taped it on, too, if I had had any. I was sure that the gun would fall out as I swayed on that rickety stool...
Stage 18 didn't bother me, except that, on the walkthrough, I couldn't figure out how the RO would follow me and not end up ahead of me. He figured it out, of course.
So far my only match DQ was from the same thing. With the same holser! I now start with the limcat locked on everything except a standing start, I even lock it on an uprange start! With the limcat you are only about .05-.1 slower with it locked on a standing draw, with that stage I don't think I saw any difference. Things happen, I feel bad for him, but I bet it never happens again...
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Stupid Alphas! I learned that if you go slow you might as well go home! First stage all I was thinking was points, shot it slow and innacurate
! Stop thinking and SHOOT! Shoot your match at yout pace and adjust accordingly.Oh, and trying to shoot 85% of Nils ain't going to be an easy task next year!
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Well, 2010 Nationalshas come and gone. I did OK I guees, are we ever happy
? I had a grand thoughts of trying to shoot 85%, HA 76% wasn't even close...I thnk my goal was gone with the first stage, nothing like shooting slow AND inaccurate! I guess for my first major as a master I should have been happier. Looking back, I wasn't pushing very hard trying too hard for points. Maybe better next year.Shot a Glock for the first time in a while today, 8# connectors are crazy! Going to shoot three matches in three weeks next month, gonna be crazy...
? I had a grand thoughts of trying to shoot 85%, HA 76% wasn't even close...I thnk my goal was gone with the first stage, nothing like shooting slow AND inaccurate!
Newbee from NM
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Welcome John! There is a lot to learn here.