kimberacp Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 What if Remington started making a clip fed shotgun, like the Saiga. I mean Para is now making a AR, why not Remington? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffWard Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 What if Remington started making a magazine fed shotgun, like the Saiga. I mean Para is now making a AR, why not Remington?thanks Fixed that for you... I'd buy one! Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Cheely Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 They already make that 7600 mag fed .223. It wouldn't be that far of a stretch to make a mag fed 870 or 1100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Ho Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I'd rather have one that feeds from a magazine. I think that if everybody and their uncle's little cousin was screaming for a box magazine fed shotgun there would be a bunch of folks making them. That's why so many companies make AR's Personally I'd like to see more out there. Competition fuels innovation. But demand has to be there first. Open shooters are a pretty small market for a company to do the R&D and new tooling for. Open shooters that use box magazine fed shotguns are an even smaller market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlamoShooter Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 in the 70s I think my brother had a bolt action 20gage with a box mag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinistralRifleman Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 (edited) The Gun Control Act of 1968 makes companies fearful of producing a detach mag fed shotguns... Why? You may ask The GCA of 1968 established that anything with a bore of greater than 1/2" is a destructive device, subject to the NFA, registration and tax. Shotguns with "sporting purposes" were exempted from this. What is a "sporting purpose"? Traditional hunting, trap, and skeet shooting. 3 Gun, Multi-Gun, USPSA, IPSC are considered to be "Combat Games" by the government and are not sporting purposes. The secretary of the treasury determines what is suitable for sporting purposes and can declare shotguns DDs by manufacturer and model number. This is why the USAS-12, Striker-12, and a few others were declared DDs; they were not suitable for sporting purposes. Magazine capacity, weight, and appearance were all considered in that ruling. In one court case IPSC type matches were specifically mentioned and the government said those aren't "sporting" So why does the SAIGA-12 get away with not being a DD? It is imported in a sporting configuration; the configuration it comes in and is sold by the manufacturer is suitable for hunting deer, and with a magazine plug Fowl. All the mods to make them into guns suitable for our sport are done by gunsmiths or individuals. Make no mistake, at some future date it could arbitrarily be made a DD. So why aren't US manufactures making a mag fed shotgun? Its an uncertain investment. Who wants to spend tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars on R&D only to be told its a DD, limiting sales potential. DDs are banned in many states, and if not banned customers still have to go through the NFA paperwork which turns a lot of people off by not being able to take their gun home the same day they paid for it. Secondly shotguns are used less and less by military and police forces outside of breaching roles and less lethal. How could a US manufacturer make a mag fed shotgun that is unlikely to be considered a DD? 1) Only sell a gun with a traditional stock, no pistol grip. 2) Factory magazines are only 5 rounds 3) DO NOT market a variant to law enforcement or the military 4) DO NOT offer any tactical accessories for it yourself; let third parties do that. 5) Make the design capable of being a pump so it can be sold in states with assault weapons bans, and if/when the semi auto becomes a DD release the pump model as a non-DD. Edited December 21, 2009 by SinistralRifleman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chills1994 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 If one were to poke around YouTube, you might just be able to find a video of the CMMG booth at some show, probably the SHOT show. In that video, they show a prototype of an AR style platform that is designed to shoot shotgun shells. slight thread drift ahead... It is a real shame that considering this economy that some laws can't be repealed or rolled back in order to put more people to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinistralRifleman Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 If one were to poke around YouTube, you might just be able to find a video of the CMMG booth at some show, probably the SHOT show.In that video, they show a prototype of an AR style platform that is designed to shoot shotgun shells. That one might be out this summer...but I am guessing more like another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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